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Rays re-imagine downtown
A modernistic, open-air ballpark with views of the bay and, yes, a sail. A makeover of the Tropicana Field site with affordable housing, retail stores and 14 acres of parkland. All of it, the Rays owners promise, with no new taxes.
By AARON SHAROCKMAN and MARC TOPKIN
Published November 28, 2007
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ST. PETERSBURG — The Tampa Bay Rays this afternoon revealed a bold plan for a new waterfront baseball stadium at one end of a dramatically transformed St. Petersburg downtown.
The Rays’ plans call for a $450-million, open-air, 34,000-seat stadium to open in 2012 at the current site of Al Lang Field. On the other end of downtown at Tropicana Field, the team proposes a massive retail and residential development.
"We’re talking about a major-league downtown," Rays principal owner Stuart Sternberg said during a meeting with the St. Petersburg Times editorial board, where he previewed the concept.
"My goodness, it's beautiful," said Gov. Charlie Crist, after a rendering of the stadium was unveiled.
The break in the team’s silence comes after nearly three weeks of speculation. Rays officials said they spent 1 1/2 years working on the plan, which was first reported Nov. 9 by the St. Petersburg Times’ Web site, www.tampabay.com.
The team formally unveiled its plans at a 2:15 p.m. announcement that included Crist, St. Petersburg Mayor Rick Baker and Major League Baseball president Bob DuPuy.
Several significant questions remain about financing, parking and the Florida heat.
Rays officials insist the project will not require new tax money. But the plan does call for $60-million in state tax money and property tax revenue from the redeveloped Tropicana Field site, as well as proceeds from the sale of that land.
The team says it believes it can stay within its $450-million stadium budget and, if not, would be responsible for any cost overruns.
"No new taxes," Sternberg said.
The stadium would require approval of St. Petersburg voters, because it involves a long-term lease of waterfront property. The team is asking for a November 2008 city referendum.
The stadium would include a sail-like cover, anchored to a 320-foot-tall mast, that could be used when it rains. It would be constructed in a way to maximize views of the waterfront and the city skyline in what Sternberg termed a "sweeping, open, inviting" design.
"We want to create something iconic … that will become the postcard shot of St. Pete," Rays vice president Michael Kalt said.
The Rays plan for the stadium to open for the 2012 season, which would allow the team to play host to the Major League Baseball All-Star Game within a few years. The team believes the stadium would become a destination, with fans spending hours before and after games in the area.
"We have the ability to make such an impact on the community, and we embrace our responsibility," said Rays president Matt Silverman.
Among the key points to the project:
Tropicana redevelopment
The Rays are working with one of the world’s largest private real estate developers to turn Tropicana Field and its adjacent parking lots into a mixed-use development worth up to $700-million.
Hines Interests in Houston has developed a plan to turn the 85-acre Trop site into a sprawling retail and residential community, anchored by a major outdoor merchandise chain. Rays officials declined to name the retailer.
The development would include 900 residential units and 1-million square feet of retail space, team officials said. Fourteen new acres of public parks would be created and centered around an enhanced Booker Creek.
If the Rays keep to their timetable, work on the site would begin in 2009, and a first phase would be complete by 2011.
"It’s a blank canvas for a developer," said Rays president Matt Silverman.
Combined with a new stadium on the waterfront, team officials said the development could finally push the growth of downtown beyond the waterfront while fulfilling the promise of economic development that never materialized at the Tropicana site.
In order for any of it to happen, though, the city first would have to request proposals for the site from developers — a requirement because the land is publicly owned.
The city would get to set the ground rules — how many residential units, how much retail — but the developers would set the asking price.
Rays officials said Hines is interested in developing the site, but recognize that other developers would be, too. Kalt said the team would ask the city to begin the development process within months.
Financing
Sternberg pledged that the stadium would be built with no new city taxes. The money, $450-million, largely would come from the Rays and the redevelopment of the Tropicana Field site.
The cost includes a contingency, Kalt said, as well as money for improvements to a park to the north of the stadium. Any cost overruns would be the team’s responsibility, Kalt said.
Here’s how the financing would work:
The Rays, who now pay about $1-million a year in rent to the city, would increase their yearly payments to close to $10-million. The city would then issue bonds, with the rent as the pledged revenue, to pay approximately $150-million of the construction costs.
The Rays also would benefit from the sale and redevelopment of the Tropicana Field site. The team said the site could be worth between $250-million and $300-million to the Rays. Part of that money would come from the future property taxes created by the Tropicana redevelopment. Called tax increment financing, the program funnels city and county property taxes toward downtown capital projects.
The tax program has been in place in downtown St. Petersburg since 1982 and runs through 2035.
The two revenue streams, Kalt said, are "sufficient to form a financing plan."
Sternberg said the team also would pursue $60-million in state funding in the form of a sales tax subsidy.
"It is a significant amount of money that would cause us to make changes in our design" if the legislature rejects the funding, Sternberg said. But, "it wouldn’t be a show stopper."
Weather issues
Though the stadium would be open air, a sail-like roof that could be deployed in about eight minutes would provide cover in the event of rain, resulting in postponements or delays only in extreme conditions.
The Rays would play mostly night games in the stadium and would plan to keep the cover on during the afternoons to keep the temperature in the seating area down. Fans or misters would provide cooling, and some stadium areas — possibly the concourses — would be air-conditioned.
Team officials said with that technology and the breeze coming off Tampa Bay, the stadium would be relatively comfortable even without full air conditioning. The team has hired a climatologist who estimates it would be about 4 degrees cooler than the average temperature for a game in Atlanta, and on par with summer conditions in Kansas City and St. Louis.
Stadium design
Rather than the retro look that has been popularized in Baltimore, Cleveland, Arlington, Texas, and San Diego, the proposed stadium would have an open, modernistic “21st century design” without a brick in the building.
Though the 34,000-seat stadium would be a snug fit when oriented on the Al Lang site, the field dimensions will not be compromised, with somewhat standard measurements, including 320 feet down the rightfield line, with balls that go over the wall and splash into the water.
The roof would be attached to the top of the stadium and anchored to a 320-foot mast in left-centerfield. The cables for the roof would be strung permanently over the playing field but high enough that they would only come into play in the most extreme circumstances. (Architects said the same thing about the catwalks at Tropicana Field, but they are hit regularly.)
"Essentially it’s a glorified umbrella," Kalt said.
"I like to think of it as a convertible top," Silverman said.
The seating areas would be constructed to maximize views of the water and St. Petersburg’s skyline, with what would be the smallest upper deck seating area (about 10,000 seats) in Major League Baseball. There would be no seats from the rightfield foul pole across to left-centerfield.
Although the stadium will be designed for baseball, it will be able to accommodate other events, including football, which could lead to a college football bowl game.
To accommodate the stadium, the Rays say they would need to fill in a small area of the waterfront to shift a section of Bayshore Drive east. The road would be closed to vehicles on game days.
At today's announcement, Rays' first-baseman Carlos Pena hit balls from what would be the spot of home plate in the new ballpark. After several attempts, he hit a ball into the Tampa Bay.
Parking
There would be minimal parking on the site, provided by a small garage. The Rays say there are enough existing spots in lots and garages in the area. They say there are 12,000 spots within a 15-minute walk of the stadium and that many could be used for game parking, that more could be available, and there will also be parking at the Tropicana Field site, with some type of shuttle service.
[Last modified November 28, 2007, 15:32:25]
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by lb
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12/08/07 05:11 AM
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Bad idea all the way around. Please take this business someplace else.
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by Gordon
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12/03/07 12:24 AM
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I like the idea of a new bowl game. Maybe us Louisville Cardinal fans would finally have a chance to win a football game down there.!
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by Paul
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12/02/07 01:40 PM
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Needs 10,000 more seats & a real retractable roof with a sliding glass wall in right field to let home runs splash into the bay. But when needed the roof & the rightfield wall could be closed. Get more investors & make St Pete really major league.
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by Brooklyn Frank
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11/30/07 09:53 PM
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Those cables are ridiculously ugly. And what happens during strong winds? A massive, flapping roof during the game? Seems pretty stupid.
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by B
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11/30/07 03:46 PM
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If the new stadium can fit into that tiny spot on the water, why can't it be put on a corner of the current site? And develop the rest of the land as planned. Then develop the waterfront into something we can all enjoy.
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by B
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11/30/07 11:58 AM
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It's not a concern to us residents where the fans will park. It's where will WE park for work and living when every last spot is taken.
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by B
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11/30/07 11:51 AM
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Good design... for about 10 years! Then it will just look dated, like most malls and high-rises that aren't built to look more classical. I'm sure many people thought The Pier was "an amazing design" at one time too.
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by Mike
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11/30/07 09:53 AM
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Now that is a reason to make the hour plus drive for- a water front baseball game at night. Count me in !
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by Jocelyn Ryaan
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11/29/07 08:57 PM
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Iam thrilled with the plan for the new ball park and hope it can come to pass.
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by Joel
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11/29/07 08:11 PM
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I believe Hok is the same group that designed the Trop. Their worst stadium design among many great ones in the country. I think if any ball has chance to hit a wire it should not be built. They don't deserve a second chance on this one.
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by Jack
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11/29/07 12:06 PM
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lots of negativity in these posts..I'm from Chicago..love the cubs..and love baseball..hate going to the Trop but I love going to see the rays for spring training b/c of the area and the outdoor stadium. St Pete needs to suck it up and get this done
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by Ryan
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11/29/07 09:28 AM
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Why are you so worried about the parking, you barely get anybody to go to the game anyways. A new stadium is a good start, as long as the owners put money into the team.
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by James
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11/29/07 09:08 AM
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Bad design. The architect is going from old designs like Olympic Stadium in Montreal, Canada and Attilla in Frankfurt Germany. This type of design is old and unreliable. We could use a new stadium of a better design. Poor decision to use that design.
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by kevin
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11/29/07 08:05 AM
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I'd just like to point out that the two of the three main complaints are "no one goes to games anyway" and "where are all the people that goto games going to park?"... kinda solves itself there guys :) i say build it and lets HOPE parking is a prob.
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by scott
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11/29/07 07:42 AM
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Has anyone thought about the possibility of building a team worth watching before building a new park?
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by Frank
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11/29/07 01:14 AM
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This is really magnificent, but I fear they will be building it in another town and all St. Pete will have is an empty dome again.
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by Dave
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11/28/07 10:06 PM
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Wow....that is an amazing design.
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by Sal
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11/28/07 09:04 PM
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St Pete will manage to screw this up as usual. The city just doesn't have the mind frame to be a true major city.
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by diana
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11/28/07 08:53 PM
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Looks incredible! Its a great plan.
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by David
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11/28/07 07:57 PM
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I'm sorry, but "beautiful" is hardly a word I would use. Plus, the Taxpayers OWN the land Trop Field occupies, who the h*ll are the Rays to say what is to become of its future? Any tax (sales, funneled, State rebates, etc) are TAXES and they go UP!
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by Al
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11/28/07 07:24 PM
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I know you St. Pete folk won't be fooled into buying all this. Oops, that's right, you voted for a domed stadium that was obsolete before it was even built. I have condiments in the fridge older than that thing.
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by Matt
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11/28/07 07:12 PM
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There is next to zero parking near Fenway, but it sells out every night.
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by Clancy
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11/28/07 06:55 PM
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If they build a team they will come, but if they erect a stadium without a team, its a waste of precious resources.
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by John
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11/28/07 06:48 PM
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Sell Tropicana Field?? MORE residences and shopping??? In this market? Hello, George McFly
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by Mike
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11/28/07 06:45 PM
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I love the new look for the stadium! We should all be glad we have a major league team! Let's not lose it to Orlando or Tampa! I hate the new uniforms though!
GO RAYS!!!
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by Rays Fan
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11/28/07 06:39 PM
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you can show us all the pretty pictures you want. The public still shouldn't pay the taxes for this. There will be no parking, have to walk 15 min in the summer heat to get in and not be able to cool down because of no A/C. Yeah...DUMB Try again Rays
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by Andrew
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11/28/07 06:17 PM
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Please tell me fly balls won't get stuck in the "sails".
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by Daniel
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11/28/07 05:52 PM
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South Tampa, Brandon, Carrollwood, Lakeland and Plant City residents don't go to the Trop to sit in A/C with FREE PARKING, what makes you think they are going to go to this inconvenient site and sit in the HEAT? Ridiculous!!!
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by Ron
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11/28/07 05:50 PM
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Pinellas passed on Busch Gardens, passed on USF, do not pass on this.
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by Jeanette
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11/28/07 05:32 PM
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Gotta love it! Open air stadium during Hurricane season? Must be the same engineers involved that tried to break Florida apart with the Cross Florida Barge Canal...LOL Mensa Members hard at work here in Florida land of duh...
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by JB
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11/28/07 05:02 PM
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""It's a blank canvas for a developer."
Now that's what this city is ALL ABOUT, people! Whoop! More opportunities for Developers! Good Job, Mayor
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by david
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11/28/07 05:00 PM
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None of you people go to games anyways. I am a local bartender, and I have heard HUNDREDS of request for a new stadium. Tropicana Field is constantly rated one of the worst stadiums in all of sports...It will bring tourist and a lot of attention.
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by chris
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11/28/07 04:55 PM
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Why so few seats? I would think we would want 50,000 for big games. Such a small stadium would mean significantly higher ticket prices.
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by Dick
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11/28/07 04:45 PM
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Good concept & design,...I would like to see the seating extend into the the center field area...and some kind of walkway with standing room in right similar to San Fran...or is there no room in right without shortening the fences?
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by justme
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11/28/07 04:37 PM
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12000 parking within a 15 minute walk "with some type of shuttle service" who's gonna pay for this? taxpayers? I am not buying any of this crap. How are the streets down by the water going to handle this kind of traffic for a NY or
Boston game?
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