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Politics
St. Petersburg straw poll votes were cast with cash
By DAVID DeCAMP, Times Staff Writer
Published November 29, 2007
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Supporters gather around Arizona Sen. John McCain at the Parkshore Grill in St. Petersburg before the debate Wednesday.
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ST. PETERSBURG -- Mitt Romney bought himself a victory in the straw poll for Republicans at a rain-shortened barbecue in Vinoy Park. Romney got 893 votes, besting second-place Ron Paul's 534 -- despite Paul's shuttling in supporters on a rented trolley and shuttle. The campaign had a plane sporting pro-Paul slogans and a boat touting him, too. In fact, Paul supporters dominated the crowd, which reached an estimated 1,000 people. Tickets for votes cost $20 each. So how did Romney do it? "I voted 20 times," Derek Gyongzois, 38, of St. Petersburg exclaimed after casting ballots. He said he works as a volunteer for the Romney campaign (and begged a reporter not to print his 20-vote tally). Did he buy the tickets? "I don't have that kind of money," Gyongzois said. He wasn't the only person voting more than once. Paul supporter Mike Wagner, 57, of St. Petersburg: "This thing is rigged." Before rain cut short the event, Paul supporters were voting multiple times, too. "This is the best election money can buy, anywhere," said Pinellas County GOP chairman Tony DiMatteo, a Rudy Giuliani supporter. Giuliani received 39 votes, followed by Mike Huckabee's 37 and Fred Thompson's 21. John McCain had 12; Duncan Hunter, 4, Alan Keyes, 2; and Tom Tancredo, 1. Romney takes a hit Mitt Romney played in an organized flag football game at Flora Wylie Park in St. Petersburg with his five sons, staffers, supporters and the media. Romney laced up his Mizuno running shoes and played for 10 to 15 minutes. Teammates included former state Republican chairman Al Cardenas and St. Petersburg Mayor Rick Baker. They all got pretty sweaty. "My son Matt tackled me," Romney said. "But fortunately he didn't throw me to the ground and make me eat grass." McCain meets teens Sen. John McCain greeted supporters at the Parkshore Grill in St. Petersburg before the debate. A good portion of the crowd included high school students invited by the McCain campaign. Devin Watson, a junior at Northside Christian School, said she became aware of McCain when she saw him as a guest on The Daily Show. Kevin Burkett, a sophomore at Northside, said he likes McCain's "prowar stance" and the fact that he's a veteran. "I think it's cowardly to cut and run," Burkett said. McCain told the teenagers that if they don't like the way the country's run they should become politically active. Rally stays peaceful A mishmash of activists gathered in St. Petersburg's Pioneer Park, calling for political change and participating in a straw poll. The crowd included members of 30 organizations, including the Democratic Party from Pinellas, Pasco and Hillsborough counties, Veterans for Peace, the Florida Green Party, the Libertarian Club of Pinellas and the South St. Petersburg Democratic Club. So who won? Ron Paul, whose supporters arrived in buses, crushed the field. He took 240 of the 322 votes cast. Dennis Kucinich was the closest competitor, at 26. Down the street, more than 100 homeless men and women and their supporters rallied across from the Mahaffey Theater. Later, nearly 400 people marched down First Street S carrying placards with messages such as "Jesus was homeless, too" and "Ron Paul is my homie." The homeless and their advocates, who had been rallying outside the Mahaffey since Sunday night, had predicted a showdown with police. But that confrontation never materialized. Instant gratification department According to a survey of Republican voters who watched last night's CNN/YouTube debate, the winner was ... Mike Huckabee. The InsiderAdvantage/Majority Opinion Research/Florida Chamber of Commerce survey, in which voters participated by calling into a toll-free phone line, gathered opinions from 341 GOP voters. The margin of error is 5.25 percent. Here are the results: Huckabee: 44%; Giuliani: 18%; Romney: 13%; McCain: 10%; Thompson: 5%; Paul: 4%; Tancredo: 1%; no winner: 5% DNC cancels debate The Democratic National Committee has canceled a Dec. 10 presidential debate in Los Angeles because of a potential strike by CBS news writers. The debate, which was to be televised by CBS, faced uncertainty after the network's news writers voted to authorize the Writers Guild of America to call a strike. After that vote, the major Democratic presidential contenders announced they would not participate in the debate if the labor dispute was not resolved. Times staff writers Jennifer Liberto, Cristina Silva and Janet Zink contributed to this report, which includes information from the Associated Press.
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by Alex
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12/09/07 04:13 PM
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Wow, the St. Pete Times doesn't bother to correct massive factual errors in the 2nd paragraph? Says a lot about the newspaper.
Ron Paul supporters were not "bussed in" by the campaign, we came at our own expense. The guy who paid already posted here!
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by Ryan
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12/04/07 12:08 PM
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I've seen/met Ron Paul, as well as his supporters at the last two Repub. debates. He's the only one not out of the machine. I pray for his personal safety every day, and he has a huge shot at winning. People who never vote will now be voting for him.
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by Alex
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12/03/07 11:22 AM
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I noticed something in the comments here. Nick and Kerry seem to be the same person.
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by David
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12/02/07 08:57 PM
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Thanks you so much for exposing this fraud. Everyone should know the GOP condones this sort of thing.
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by Justin
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12/02/07 03:34 PM
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This needs to go national. People need to know about the corruption.
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by susan
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12/01/07 09:51 PM
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There are many Youtube videos of the Romney camp committing outright fraud. Haven't we had enough vote fraud by now??? No Amaerican should stand for this.
Thank you for printing this story.
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by Beverly
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12/01/07 05:05 AM
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I am 77 years old. I have voted Democratic all of my adult life. I am so disgusted with the choices we have, I changed to Republican and now support
Ron Paul
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by Me
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12/01/07 04:43 AM
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What is wrong with you people? I've never seen so many people capable of being so ignorant yet so very pompous at the same time. Do you even understand the difference b/w a straw poll and election? Your message is flawed and your delivery obnoxious.
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by Tony
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12/01/07 12:03 AM
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"supporting McCain because he is a vet"...
It just so happens Dr. Paul is a vet too. He also was not part of the Keating 5.
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by Andy
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11/30/07 10:14 PM
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This is exactly why I don't trust our Politicians. Although this is not illegal, it is unethical and dishonest. We have subprime mortgages and subprime Politicians to go with it - with the exception of Dr. Ron Paul. Let's hope he becomes Prez !!
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by David
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11/30/07 09:27 PM
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Hi Florida! Glad to hear you like Ron Paul so much. I do too!
RON PAUL 2008 - HOPE FOR AMERICA!
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by Glenda
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11/30/07 04:25 PM
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You may want to have your editor update the list of candidates. Unless of course a representation of the truth is not the standard of this media source either.
You are invited to the revolution but you are not required to show up now.
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by Jamie
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11/30/07 03:08 PM
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1,000 Ron Paul Revolution patriots were very happy to spend the day in your beautiful city and waterfront. No other candidate had even 1/50th the number of supporters there in the streets and parks. Cheering to take back our country from the Neocons.
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by Georgann
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11/30/07 01:16 PM
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Again, Ron Paul is treated badly. I'm an anti war Republican, and so I like him more and more.
The hit pieces just make me feel sorry for him, and question what everybody is so afraid of...
I'm gonna vote for him because of stories like this one.
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by LinuxUser269
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11/30/07 10:40 AM
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Facts are wrong:The Ron Paul campagin had nothing to do with the bus,trolley,plains(2),boats(2),or the renting of the Palladium theater witch packed out with 700 supporters.
All these were paid for by a very organized grassroots effort.
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by Gary
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11/29/07 07:30 PM
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The more the corporate media lie, the smaller their credibility grows. Mitt Romney didn't just pay for more tickets. That would be bad. But his few supporters voted dozens of times and that was what gave him victory.
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by Steve
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11/29/07 05:08 PM
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By looking at the comments on here Ron Paul clearly has the majority of vote.
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by Kathy
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11/29/07 04:06 PM
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I don't feel the debate was very fair. Ron Paul was given little time to speak. Most of the questions were directed to Romney, Huckabee, Guiliano and McCain. Without time to speak, how can anyone judge the winner.
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by Matt
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11/29/07 04:03 PM
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Here are the videos I shot of the ballot stuffing: http://www.youtube.com/my_playlists?p=4E92C99D61389997
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by Mike Z
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11/29/07 03:56 PM
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The people taking the voting tickets didn't even pretend to give one vote per person. They asked how many tickets you had and let you votte all of them at once.
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by Andy
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11/29/07 03:32 PM
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McCain meets Teens? I was there with a friend and there were max 15 out of the crowd (about 85) who were under 25. How can I really tell? Sea of gray hair.
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by Lynda
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11/29/07 03:17 PM
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I mentioned to a poll watcher that some people were voting more than once. She said "Oh this is not a scientific poll" I responded "not scientific means dishonest? Oh,I forgot this is politic."
I hope someone can YouTube the cheaters'faces all over.
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by Mike
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11/29/07 03:14 PM
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I went to the debate - my hardcore rep friend spotted that the youtube videos were planted. He's now on the fence for Paul and thinks a Paul/Huckabee ticket might win. I think it is a gift that Ron Paul has been sent to us at this critical time.
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by Steve
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11/29/07 01:28 PM
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I, and two friends who were going to vote for Ron Paul, were denied the ability to vote. We arrived at 6:40 p.m., but the voting was shut down, even though it was scheduled to go until 7:00. Ron Paul signs outnumbered Romney's 20 to 1! Rigged poll
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by Evan
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11/29/07 01:03 PM
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One Romney supporter cast 80 votes! Honestly, one person, one vote! And at a debate, shouldn't each candidate have an equal chance to answer each question? Further, we don't need biased comments afterwards. We can think for ourselves.
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by Joe
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11/29/07 12:01 PM
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I drove from Tampa by myself, parked a mile away from the park, and walked to the straw poll. I bought one ticket and voted for Ron Paul. I am a business owner, voted for Reagan, and will send Ron $2300 on December 16. Ron Paul is the real deal.
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by Nick
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11/29/07 11:17 AM
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First get your facts right. The official Pon Paul campaign did not shuttle or trolley anyone in. Every Paul supporter that came was an independent supporter that paid for their own ride and ticket and they do have video of the Romney ballot stuffing
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by Cedric
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11/29/07 11:11 AM
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I watched a Romney "supporter" infront of me buy 5 votes. I about lost it right there. where is the outrage??? This is reality folks... your opinion DOESN'T COUNT! Not to the media, and not to the Republican Party of Florida.
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by Samm
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11/29/07 11:01 AM
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Ron Paul spoke to over 1000 people at the Palladium Theatre after the CNN Debate, which shamefully denied him time to speak. He was as electrifying. I felt like I was listening to one of our founding fathers. Ron Paul for President.
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by Jamey
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11/29/07 09:47 AM
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I was there supporting Ron Paul. Basically if you were Romney Supporter you get a stack of tickets, We each had one and had to buy them. We didn't sell them all. There weren't many left and we didn't want to waste our group's money. Ron Paul 2008!
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by Scott
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11/29/07 09:22 AM
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I rented the Ron Paul Trolley for the event last night. Not a single person arrived to the afternoon events on the trolley other than the driver. I rented the trolley so that Ron Paul supporters could be shuttled around to the 3 or 4 event location
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by Steph
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11/29/07 08:01 AM
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I was there at the straw poll- the mitt romney folks were caught on video casting up to 40 votes per person- I know they did not buy those tickets on their own-this was completely rigged. What a FARSE!
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by Mitt
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11/29/07 03:18 AM
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Yeah, I stuffed the stuffed the ballot box, so what!
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by Billy
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11/29/07 03:14 AM
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Umm, I was there all day, there were maybe 20 each from the Romney and Rudy camps, and 500 for Ron Paul. The results are a rediculous travesty. The poll workers there absolutely must have known the result was totally bogus and Ron won hands down.
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by R
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11/29/07 03:06 AM
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Pretty funny that most of the Ron Paul supporters I knew of there were Dems with nothing better to do since none of their candidates would dare come to this state. hahaha
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