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Tensions, gunfire leave some wary of BayWalk

The mayor and police officials say the area is safe and secure.

By ABHI RAGHUNATHAN, Times Staff Writer
Published December 28, 2007


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Karin Lahti, left, 36, her daughter, Savannah Almarode, center, 10, and mother, Martha Mills, 62, walk across BayWalk's plaza Thursday before going to a movie. Lahti and Mills knew of the violence at BayWalk on Christmas night. "I wouldn't come here after dark with the family any more," said Lahti.

Curtis D. Scott, 19, was arrested on a disorderly conduct charge.

Curtis Donaldson, 23, was arrested on charges of violating probation, cocaine possession and disorderly conduct.

ST. PETERSBURG - James W. Mann came to BayWalk on Christmas evening with his family to check out the new Will Smith action movie I Am Legend.

But his plans for a quiet night out turned ugly when someone in a crowd of people leaving the outdoor shopping and entertainment complex fired seven gunshots into the air. People ran around the theater in fear, and Mann even saw one panicked woman collapse. He was so terrified that he fled out a back entrance with his family. They carefully made their way down side streets to get to their car.

"I don't ever plan on going there again," said Mann, 54, a semiretired truck driver who went to BayWalk with his wife, daughter and son-in-law.

On Thursday, Mayor Rick Baker, police Chief Chuck Harmon and a spokeswoman for the Sembler Co., which runs BayWalk, all stressed that the complex is safe.

Still, police plan to increase their presence at BayWalk for the next several weeks. And Harmon said the department would review its staffing in the area.

Next year, "we'll probably have more folks there than we did this year," the chief said.

The Christmas evening ruckus at BayWalk began late Tuesday, as hundreds of teenagers milled around outside the movie theaters. Many shows were sold out.

As the crowd grew and spilled outside the plaza, so did tensions. One man walked around challenging people to fight him. Someone else threw a wad of money into the air, causing a stampede. Around 11:03 p.m., a man was shot and wounded in a parking garage near BayWalk. No arrests were made in that case.

Police say that as they escorted unaccompanied juveniles out of BayWalk, which they regularly do to enforce a 10 p.m. curfew there, they didn't have any problems. But then someone in the departing crowd fired seven shots into the air around 11:10 p.m. People immediately scattered, and officers called for backup.

An officer also had to use pepper spray to break up a brawl of eight people, including several juvenile girls who were punching and kicking each other at Third Avenue N and First Street. The State Attorney's Office is deciding whether to prosecute three of the girls.

Police named only two adults who were arrested: Curtis Donaldson, 23, the man they said threw a wad of bills into the air, and Curtis D. Scott, 19, the man they said walked through the crowd offering to fight people.

It was the second large disturbance at BayWalk in three years. In January 2005, a series of brawls led to the arrests of 17 people, including seven juveniles, on charges ranging from disorderly conduct to battery on a law enforcement officer.

Partly because of the large crowd that descended on BayWalk last year, police had stepped up their security there this year. One officer estimated there were 600 people at BayWalk, though other estimates varied.

Six off-duty officers were working at Muvico as well as the roughly six on-duty officers who usually patrol the section of downtown that includes BayWalk.

BayWalk also had more security officers there, though a spokeswoman declined to specify an exact number.

More police arrived after officers called for help, though an exact number wasn't available Thursday. It took until around 1:30 a.m. for the crowd to completely disperse, police said.

"The crowd was anticipated and we did have additional officers there," assistant chief of police Dave DeKay said. "It's the biggest movie day of the year."

City Council member Bill Foster, who was at BayWalk that night, said that young people were openly smoking marijuana and that police were overwhelmed by the situation. He said he had written a memo to Baker and Harmon.

Baker said he couldn't comment on Foster's memo Thursday because he hadn't received it. Still, the mayor thinks BayWalk is a safe place, adding that he recently took his family there to see Alvin and the Chipmunks.

"The police handled it well," Baker said. "Like any situation, we'll do a review, and if we can learn from it, we'll learn from it."

Police logs show that officers were called to the Muvico theatre 72 times this year, largely for minor incidents like trespassing, a number police don't find alarming.

Harmon said a handful of people were responsible for the Christmas chaos: "You had a couple of people doing things they shouldn't have been doing."

Lisa Brock, a spokeswoman for the Sembler Co., said executive management met with tenants Thursday morning, and "the general consensus was that security was adequate and security is not the issue."

"We feel like we had a security plan that worked. We cleared the plaza," Brock said. "We feel like BayWalk is a safe place."

Several people interviewed at BayWalk on Thursday afternoon had mixed feelings about the response.

Maurine Young, 57, said the Christmas chaos probably won't dissuade her from going to any movies or restaurants at BayWalk. Though she was "quite surprised" that something like that could happen there.

"I was very shocked," she said. "Were they prepared? Maybe they weren't."

Fred Staley, 68, was more blunt. He knows that kids linger in BayWalk, and that has always made him reluctant to go to the plaza on weekends. The Christmas ruckus clinched his decision to go elsewhere to see a movie.

"I would never come here on a weekend night," he said. "Unless I was carrying my gun."

Abhi Raghunathan can be reached at araghunathan@sptimes.com or 727 893-8472.

FAST FACTS:

Taken into custody

Police arrested Curtis Donaldson, 23, on charges of violating probation, cocaine possession and disorderly conduct.

Police arrested Curtis D. Scott, 19, on a disorderly conduct charge.

Jessica N. Williams, 19, could face a disorderly conduct charge. Possible charges against her and two juveniles were forwarded to the State Attorney's Office.

[Last modified December 27, 2007, 22:54:00]


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by candi 12/29/07 03:59 PM
I agree w/ Old Northeast !!!!! Bring em' in earlier and have better/more officers presant !!!
by rick 12/29/07 08:12 AM
it's all magnified as this is what the values of out society have become, and yes from the top down. but you only pay attention to the bottom, while all the while the top keeps getting away with taking more of you and you neighbors money and homes.
by Craig 12/29/07 07:49 AM
This can ALL be layed right in Bakers lap. Why not appoint a few more of your terrorist pals to city office before you leave. It seems to be working so well. "How to rebuild a downtown ... right into the ground." By Rick Baker
by Jon 12/29/07 07:46 AM
If the popo can't protect Baywalk, How will they protect our new 16 acre Trop redevelopment Playground?
by Marie 12/28/07 10:59 PM
My son 21 was raised in St.Pete by me a single mom, at times on welfare, food stamps, etc. His Dad was murdered by 2 guns here this year. You labeled him invisible. My son doesn't have a gun. WHY DO THESE PEOPLE HAVE GUNS? Life means nothing to them!
by Lynn 12/28/07 10:29 PM
Young Men with Guns in St. Pete in the Sunshine State or shall I say in Da Burg,Gunshine State. The gang bangers have taken over and renamed it. Were they aimming at the people your paper labels the "INVISIBLE PEOPLE" OR AT THE VISIBLE ONES NOW TOO?
by JJ 12/28/07 10:29 PM
Each of these fine upstanding citizens (Scott & Donaldson) have 3 arrests each in the past 2 years, including a Felony. Go to the Sheriff website http://pcsoweb.com/Inmate/inquiry.aspx and check them out. Hood addes. NO Surprizes there! GO-D WhereRU?
by Helen 12/28/07 10:12 PM
Some are comparing Baywalk with Atlanta's Underground. Atlanta hasn't had this violence at Underground. Like Baywalk they do have a hard time getting locals to come. But Atlanta does get more support from its suburbs, unlike downtown St. Pete does.
by WTF 12/28/07 07:34 PM
They are not minors, they are adults at 19 and 23. How do you properly supervise a 23 year old in a public venue. Legal they are adults, obviously mentally they have the minds of children and mental midgets. How does a curfew for a 23 year old work?
by rick 12/28/07 06:51 PM
hey mayor, i'm glad you took your kids to a movie, but 10:30 in the morning is not when the problem is so quite spinning the episode. take them at 9:30 at night. frankly my family and i go to pin park movies, much safer...
by kitty 12/28/07 03:51 PM
Next time it happens, business owners - when they call the police - should tell the police that a bunch of homeless people are trashing the place. They'll send in the SWAT team!
by kitty 12/28/07 03:49 PM
Why don't the semblers just open another straight, inc.-type operation? That would "fix" those unruly teens! Oh that's right - they're not rich kids so their parents can't afford the sembler's fees.
by Old Northeast 12/28/07 03:45 PM
9PM CURFEW (7 DAYS A WEEK) FOR ALL MINORS NOT ACCOMPANIED BY PARENT OR LEGAL GUARDIAN A N D STRICT ENFORCEMENT OF THE CURFEW BY POLICE.
by Matt 12/28/07 12:40 PM
The Police dept should send in a signifcant force to contend with the thugs. If Omali Yeshitila does not like it, then the US attorney should consider bringing him up on terrorism charges. He is what he is.
by Dan 12/28/07 12:20 PM
Give me a break these are just kids without proper adult supervision. The City has done nothing to currect this situation for years. What do you expect when crack babies run wild. The City has created this problem by failing to address the it.
by Truth 12/28/07 12:19 PM
Thugs from Midtown and thugs from City Hall have already taken over St. Pete under the careful watch of the Uhurus. Decent people don't have a chance in St. Pete and are arming themselves in record number. It's a GREAT DAY in St. Pete!
by tee 12/28/07 12:09 PM
This message is for Pete. Black young man arent the only people carrying and using guns. Check the news and paper and get more information before you make rude and disrespectful comments. Carrying and using guns dont just come in the color BLACK.
by jerry 12/28/07 12:02 PM
You put your life at risk any time you go downtown. Bad element = Bad outcome
by WTF 12/28/07 12:01 PM
Fired seven gunshots into the air.Mayor Rick Baker, police Chief Chuck Harmon and a spokeswoman for the Sembler Co., which runs BayWalk, all stressed that the complex is safe. NOW THATS THE OXYMORON OF THE CENTURY.GET BAKER OUT OF THERE.
by christina 12/28/07 11:49 AM
why have a gun to go to the movies??? are you dumb?young men w/guns ?why? is this the wild west? is this what we spent all that money to make downtown and baywalk a nice place to go ? why guns ?guns and dumb people =dead dumb people.nice place 4kids
by John 12/28/07 11:35 AM
This incident is a direct result of our poor police policies. We have neutered our PD with race specific policies, no chase rules, and "fuzzy math" staffing levels. Harmon and Baker are to blame, should step down and put real leaders in charge.
by Ray 12/28/07 11:19 AM
Close Baywalk and let people go to the suburbs where they are safe. St Petersburg is the Detroit of the south. Populated by the same type of people.
by B 12/28/07 10:45 AM
St. Petersburg has so much potential to become a great little city, but never will because of no real police department to control the savage south side.
by Daniel 12/28/07 10:05 AM
Comments from Baker and Harmon say it all. The Ostrich approach to a problem...stick your head in the sand. Baker should fire Harmon for incompetence, and then resign himself. Oh, and would the lkast thug to leave Baywalk please turn out the lights?
by doug 12/28/07 09:47 AM
Sembler loves cashing the rent checks but doesn't like spending them on things like security
by Marty S. 12/28/07 09:28 AM
Let's call this what it was - a small scale riot that SPPD was - AGAIN - unable to control. Pepper Spray, gunshots, 2 officers injured, people being arrested, trampled and fearing for their lives. Yeah, that's pretty much the definition of a riot!
by kbd 12/28/07 09:27 AM
Police and Sheriff's Dept need to make their presense known in down town St.Pete and keep it known. Not a couple of weeks. Permanently! The more they are seen the less likely the thugs will hang down there. DON'T let thugs take control of our town!!!
by firmgrasponobvious 12/28/07 09:25 AM
simple solution: get rid of Wet Willie's and the ghetto music blaring out of their speakers, and broadcast classical music in the courtyard there. Music soothes the savage beast. Problem solved.
by Marty S 12/28/07 09:18 AM
Harmon's whole tone is what's wrong with SPPD. 6th paragraph: "We'll propbably have more FOLKS there..." You should have said "We'll have additional Police Officers there making arrests pursuant to State statue. Cont'd
by c 12/28/07 09:00 AM
Ybor City used to be a nice place to go in the evening til inconsiderate, disrespectful people took over. They should not be allowed to do this to Baywalk.
by Victoria 12/28/07 07:34 AM
Prosecutors DECIDING if they should prosecute of ourse they should..how in the world are guns being allowed on a public family oriented area..drugs..these juveniles have no respect for public safety. Parents raise your kids to respect all people
by Pete 12/28/07 07:12 AM
Oh, young black men with guns! Why am I not surprised?
by Russ 12/28/07 06:50 AM
Baywalk is 1 bad incident away from turning into a ghost town. All because the city is afraid of the so-called civil rights groups.I nor anyone I know goes there anymore,its uncomfortable at best and scary at worst. What a lame response from Baker.
by Bobo 12/28/07 06:44 AM
And next week the Uhurus will protest that the cops were keeping the African community down by not allowing the traditional Kwaanza gunfire and marijuana rituals? The white folks just don't understand!
by Mike 12/28/07 06:01 AM
Mayor Baker do everyone a favor and step aside. Let us bring in a strong leader. This city needs strong leadership and you are not it.
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