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Rays hear ideas for the Trop

The team hosts 331 residents intent on discussing the site's future.

By AARON SHAROCKMAN, Times Staff Writer
Published January 10, 2008


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ST. PETERSBURG -- In right field, on the spongy fake grass, beneath an advertisement for Pepsi and another for Budweiser, an eclectic mix of 331 residents plotted a potential future for Tropicana Field on Wednesday.

The discussion was robust. Passionate, but not hostile.

The ideas were endless.

Unanimity, however, was not to be found.

"It's nice that they actually asked us what we thought," said Janet Dunne, a downtown resident who supports growth -- in moderation.

In groups of 10, the residents were armed with markers and asked to draw the future of the 86 acres along First Avenue S and 16th Street.

The groups mixed politicians and developers, lawyers and environmental activists. Two people protested outside the Trop.

One woman protested inside.

Joan Martin, a 68-year-old St. Petersburg resident, created a necklace in yellow that said "Save the Dome." She held a pink sign in her hand to match.

She was seated at the same table as Craig Sher, the president of the Sembler Co. and one of the people interested in developing the Tampa Bay Rays' current home.

As Sher talked about the possibilities for the site -- from retail to office to affordable housing -- Martin recalled an event at the domed stadium that drew exercise guru Richard Simmons.

"It was packed," she said. "Where would we go if the dome was gone?"

Sher talked about the possibility of office space.

"Dime a dozen," Martin chimed in.

Someone else talked about housing.

"Dime a dozen," she said again.

At one point, Martin stood on her seat and waved her sign.

For the most part, people were cautious about replacing Tropicana Field, which opened in 1990. But many were at least open to the idea.

The Rays want to build a $450-million stadium on the site of Al Lang Field. To pay for it, they propose redeveloping Tropicana Field and its adjacent parking lots. The team also would contribute $150-million to construction through yearly lease payments.

"This is a suburban baseball park in an urban area," former City Council member Jay Lasita told his group seated at Table 30. "The whole proposition, the Rays' proposition, deserves a reasonable discussion. Not just a gut reaction."

"I'm a baseball fan, but I like the idea of a dome," Cory Calvin said to a group at a table nearby.

Gail Eggeman, a former city employee who lives just near BayWalk in downtown St. Petersburg, said she was excited at the prospect of redeveloping the Tropicana Field site, but she would like it better if the Rays relocated closer to the Gandy Bridge area.

"They lit up my mind about what could happen if there was no baseball," Eggeman said.

During their introductory remarks, both Mayor Rick Baker and City Council Chairman Jamie Bennett took great pains to make clear that they have not endorsed or agreed to any of the Rays' requests.

The Rays say they haven't agreed to anything, either. They believe their plan is feasible, team president Matt Silverman said. But they also admit it may not work.

On Wednesday, team and city officials began their search for answers. Council members will decide on Jan. 17 whether to solicit developer proposals for the Tropicana Field site.

"This is an information gathering process," Baker said. "The city and I have not committed to either opposing this project or supporting this project. I believe all of our jobs is to gather as much information as we can."

Times staff writer Stephanie Garry contributed to this report.

 

Fast facts: Tropicana Field's future
People were asked to rank five potential land uses for the Tropicana site, and another five design principles for the redevelopment. Among land use ideas, residential and retail were chosen as favorites. The top two design principles: pedestrian friendly and mid-rised, mixed use.

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by Mickey 01/14/08 05:55 PM
I'm sure this is a crazy question, but can the roof be removed? Then you could get busy rennovating the stadium like Angels Stadium was a few years back. The Rays should be in Tampa. The Trop is the worst facility in the majors.
by Dnt 01/12/08 09:48 AM
move the team to Tampa and the Rays will finally find some level of success.
by Utah 01/10/08 05:20 PM
I say Turn the TROP with its superior AC system into a winter sports theme park. snow boarding, skiing all year round. and sell the team to Toledo or something.Seriously ...Yes I am still upset about the name change.Forever a Devil Ray.
by Paul 01/10/08 03:05 PM
What a charade. Hey Rays owners: us citizens will vote down anything and everything you want to do with OUR land and OUR damm money. Fix your own business, not everyone even watches or cares about YOUR team. YOU own it, YOU pay for it!
by Mark 01/10/08 12:34 PM
I think they should play baseball in it. It has ac no humidity, mosquitos, knats, flys, can play every game, and NO HUMIDTY, who care sabout sails that block uv so does my house but I don't open the windows in July because it's like 98% humidity, hot
by Paul 01/10/08 12:20 PM
Isn't it true the land the trop sits on actually belongs to the county and not the city or the Rays? Shouldn't the county be the one consulted on the future of this land? As a county taxpayer that is what I expect.
by P 01/10/08 11:56 AM
Any reason why you gave any mention to the goofy lady with the pink sign. There were hundreds of other intelligent folks who spent their quality time and you decide this goof ball deserves a photo and recognition.
by tommy 01/10/08 11:16 AM
I am from Denver Which has all new stadiums.Get ready for higher prices tickets, parking and concessions if you rebuild?.Tropicana is still useful and in good shape.I for one find it an attraction being indoors.Its not the stadium -it's your team.
by jim 01/10/08 08:49 AM
There is nothing wrong with Tropicana Field that twenty more wins wouldn't cure.
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