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Schools

Foster links Darwin, Hitler

The former City Council member even cites evolution in the Columbine shootings.

By RON MATUS and DONNA WINCHESTER, Times Staff Writers
Published January 12, 2008


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Darwin, Hitler, Columbine

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Bill Foster is considered a leading contender in the race for the next mayor of St. Petersburg.

Darwin's theory of evolution helped fuel the rise of Hitler and contributed to the school-shooting massacre at Columbine, a former St. Petersburg City Council member wrote in a letter urging the Pinellas County School Board to expose students to alternative theories.

"Evolution gives our kids an excuse to believe in natural selection and survival of the fittest, which leads to a belief that they are superior over the weak," Bill Foster wrote board members in a letter received this week. "This is a slippery slope."

He continued: "One of the Columbine shooters wrote on his Web site, 'You know what I love? Natural selection! It's the best thing that ever happened to the Earth. Getting rid of all the stupid and weak organisms.'"

Foster's letter comes in the midst of an increasingly emotional tug-of-war over the state's proposed new science standards, which embrace Charles Darwin's theory as the fundamental pillar of modern biology. The current standards, written in 1996, do not mention the word "evolution."

The state Board of Education is scheduled to vote on the issue Feb. 19.

Foster, who recently stepped down after being term-limited from office, is widely considered to be a leading contender to be St. Petersburg's next mayor in 2009. He said Friday he wrote the letter, which appears on his law firm's stationery, as the concerned parent of a high school student.

"I'm not interested in taking this on as my own personal crusade," Foster said. "I just wanted them to hear from the parent of someone they're teaching that I would appreciate it if they would tolerate another view."

Foster isn't the first Darwin critic to attempt to link evolutionary theory to violence and racism, but he is the first public figure in the Florida debate to do so.

After the Columbine shooting in 1999, then-U.S. Rep. Tom DeLay cited Darwin's theory as a contributing factor, reading a letter into the Congressional Record that said public schools "teach the children that they are nothing but glorified apes who have evolutionized out of some primordial soup of mud." This summer, Fort Lauderdale's Coral Ridge Ministries aired a TV special on Christian cable called Darwin's Deadly Legacy.

"To put it simply, no Darwin, no Hitler," said the group's late founder, D. James Kennedy.

Foster echoed those words in his letter: "Adolf Hitler duped an entire generation using Darwin's evolution," he wrote. "He sought to preserve the 'favored' race in the struggle for survival."

That notion is a selective reading of science and history, said Florida State University professor Michael Ruse, an authority on the history and philosophy of science.

Ruse said Nazi ideologues were motivated by many factors, including "social Darwinism," a movement that tried to apply natural concepts like "survival of the fittest" to human society. But the Nazis later distanced themselves from Darwin because rather than promoting racial superiority, evolution showed "Aryans and Jews and Gypsies and Slavs were all one stem," he said.

Ruse also noted that during the Civil War, both supporters and opponents of slavery cited the Bible to back their positions. "In the name of Darwin, just like in the name of Jesus, we find contradictory philosophies," he said.

In his letter, Foster asked board members to consider allowing the discussion of alternative theories in the classroom.

"I think that's what's been lacking," he said Friday. "I'm not asking the school board to teach the Genesis account. I'm asking simply that they allow discussion on it."

He continued: "They have been teaching evolution as a hard and scientific fact. Some of the kids end up going to church and synagogue and they learn about the creator and they say, 'Wait a minute.'"

The St. Petersburg Times reported Dec. 18 that four of seven Pinellas school board members supported the teaching of alternative theories. But the issue has not come before the board, and board member Janet Clark said she would be surprised if it did, despite Foster's request.

"As an attorney, he should realize there have been court cases on this topic," Clark said. "Encouraging the school district to open what would be a legal can of worms is not very good legal advice."

To date, at least three school boards - in Baker, Taylor and Holmes counties, all in North Florida - have passed resolutions objecting to the proposed standards. And at least one other county, St. John's, is likely to consider doing so.

The Taylor County resolution says the standards should be revised "so that evolution is presented as one of several theories as to how the universe was formed." The Baker County resolution asks for a change "so evolution is not presented as fact."

The draft standards say evolution is "the fundamental concept underlying all of biology." They say students should be able to recognize that "small genetic differences between parents and offspring can accumulate in successive generations so that descendants are very different from their ancestors," and that "fossil evidence is consistent with the idea that human beings evolved from earlier species."

Some polls show a majority of Americans do not believe Darwin's theory, even though the vast majority of scientists consider it sound.

In his letter, Foster said he learned about Darwin in a class at Northeast High School, where a teacher told him, "There is really no scientific evidence to support this theory, but if you want to believe that you descended from monkeys, then feel free to do so."

Becky Steele, a lawyer with the American Civil Liberties Union of Florida, called those statements embarrassing.

Foster's letter is "Exhibit 1 for why we need to change our science standards, for the profound misunderstandings it reveals," she said.

Times staff writer Cristina Silva contributed to this report. Ron Matus can be reached at matus@sptimes.com or (727) 893-8873. Donna Winchester can be reached at winchester@sptimes.com or (727) 893-8413.

[Last modified January 14, 2008, 11:00:41]


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Comments on this article
by Shaun 02/24/08 01:42 AM
Wow, I can't believe this topic is still being debated. Well since we're teaching the controversy we should teach the alternate theory of alchemy alongside chemistry right? Creationism is NOT science and should be left out of the classroom.
by Fred 02/11/08 08:51 AM
Same line as backing secret meetings, this bird wants to be Mayor?
by Greg 01/22/08 03:52 PM
The public schools are required to teach more than one theory of how the Earth was formed. If they are teaching just the theory of Evolution, then that is wrong. If public schools teach just the fact of Creation, then that is wrong.
by Ian 01/20/08 11:25 AM
Mr. Foster is perfect evidence of why Florida's schools consistently rank near the bottom of all the states! No one ever flunked him in a science class, if he ever took one.
by Richard 01/17/08 11:21 AM
Gosh, hasn't Christianity led to such wonderful things as the Crusades and the Spanish Inquisition. I almost forgot how Christianity promotes peace. I am so glad I moved out of Florida.
by Bill 01/17/08 10:25 AM
Wow. When I was a kid I knew a lot of people who were Christian AND believed in evolution. They recognized the moral lessons from the bible and did not pick and choose what parts they wanted to take literally.
by D-503 01/17/08 04:41 AM
Whilst the jump from Darwinism to Hitler is silly, it is still worth noting that just because something has negative repercussions it doesn't mean that it is untrue. The creationist answer may sound more appealing, but that doesn't make it correct.
by Kerri 01/16/08 09:37 PM
I disagree with Mover completely. Evolution is a scientific theory... not "just a guess." It is considered fact based on the information we currently have. Bill Foster and his ilk are dangerous to our country and the future of our society.
by Bear 01/16/08 09:30 PM
Evolution will always be a theory. All models of science are theories. If you wait until college to teach theories, you'll be removing physics, chemistry, and biology from the curriculum. Education in the US is already lagging in these areas.
by chris 01/16/08 07:11 PM
They can teach religion in schools as soon as they start teaching evolution in churches.
by Alan 01/16/08 06:43 PM
Why aren't we addressing more dangerous theories? What theory caused the WTC to collapse on 9/11? That's right. Newton's theory of gravitation. Why are we teaching our kids such tripe, instead of "intelligent falling?"
by Ben 01/16/08 06:07 PM
If you want something else then fine... find a good theory that measures up to scientific standards and is aproved by peer review. Otherwise you will need a constitutional ammendment. Do you want money to teach your kids, or fight a lawsuit?
by Brian 01/16/08 04:52 PM
Yes, Genesis is a valid scientific source and is agreed upon universally, regardless of faith or lack thereof, while anything Hitler touched is pure evil. A person able to ignore logic and impose ideology should not be allowed to run a city.
by Mover 01/16/08 03:13 PM
As evolution is still only a theory, teaching it should be reserved to college level courses, instead of indoctrinating children. There is plenty of information that is more valuable to real life than Darwin's theories that children need.
by Erix 01/16/08 02:15 PM
Darwin only stipulated that genetic changes occur over time. He never suggested that Man descended from Ape. That's been inferred based on physical characteristics and DNA similarities. Darwin never tried to explain the origins of Earth or life on it
by Ashles 01/16/08 02:10 PM
Well to be fair, no gravity, no Hitler. I don't see why the theory of gravity's vital role in Hitler's exterminations is being ignored. Let's ban the teachings of Newton too! Gravity's just a theory - why aren't we teaching alternatives?
by none 01/16/08 02:02 PM
As for this guy, think of all the people that where raped and killed in the name of god. WOW. This guy should of done a little more thinking befoer he said that.
by dan 01/16/08 01:41 PM
Hitler was raised as a Christian. The Nazis destroyed Jewish temples and built churches in their place. Now Bill Foster says he was raised as a Christian. It's the same comparison he's making.
by Neal 01/16/08 01:27 PM
Social Darwinism (which is what Foster is promoting) is a complete misinterpretation of what Darwin is saying in his book. Darwin is talking about the evolutionary "fittest". Foster continues to promote an inaccurate and dangerous way to think.
by Catherine 01/16/08 01:12 PM
Looking at some of these comments. It's not so much that Darwinist or others are afraid of Creatiionism, they just beleive that it's ignorant and not founded on any scientific princible.So, whatever has been observed in the lab makes it in text books
by Mike 01/16/08 01:12 PM
Why can't our children be taught that there are other views about how our world came into exsitence? Because religious views don't belong in a science class, that's why. It's so simple, I'm amazed there is any "debate" at all.
by Lee 01/16/08 12:14 PM
Bill Foster is a perfect example of those who argue for creation with no concern for logic or truth. They have been brainwashed to support their beliefs mindlessly, but Foster is an extreme case even among the faithful.
by Norma 01/15/08 06:51 PM
"THE LORD NULLIFIES THE COUNSEL OF THE NATIONS, HE FRUSTRATES THE PLANS OF THE PEOPLES. THE COUNSEL OF THE LORD STANDS FOREVER, THE PLANS OF HIS HEART FROM GENERATION TO GENERATION. BLESSED IS THE NATION WHOSE GOD IS THE LORD". PsALM 33:10-12
by David Rice 01/15/08 05:17 PM
There are no "alternative theories" regarding how life came to be (abiogenesis) and how life diversifies over time (evolution). How can non-existent theories be taught? Foster is not making any sense at all.
by James 01/15/08 10:15 AM
Can anyone tell me where this guy went to college?
by Meg 01/14/08 02:06 PM
I agree with Mr. Foster! Why can't our children be taught that there are other views about how our world came into exsitence? Why is everyone so scared of creationism that they refuse to let it be discussed in Public schools?
by Sal 01/14/08 11:59 AM
Becoming a lawyer seems the same as becoming a priest. You study a dogma/code/law that is written & learn how to apply it. There is no scientific discovery of the unknown. You have to apply the known & it's interpreted by a higher authority.
by Jan 01/14/08 11:50 AM
The bible condones slavery, maybe Foster would like to teach about that too.
by Doug 01/14/08 10:04 AM
Creation is fact. See Genesis. Evolution is theory. See Dictionary. Earth and everything on it was created in 6 literal days. Again, see Genesis. Attacking someone personally for what is fact is wrong. Shame on St. Pete Times and shame on you! Vote!
by Tony 01/14/08 06:48 AM
Bill Foster's comments were a bit upsetting. Saying that Darwin was responsible for Hitler is like saying the Bible is responsible for abortion clinic bombings, and right wing religious radicals.
by Pat 01/14/08 04:31 AM
Mr. Foster, you have never been subjected to scary evolution. You, dear Sir, have been subjected to the dumbing down of this country. And, you are merely adding to it.
by Jan 01/14/08 04:00 AM
Saying Darwin was responsible for Hitler's atrocities is akin to saying the Wright Brothers were responsible for 9/11. Foster isn't just an embarrassment to Florida, he's an embarrassment to the entire human race!
by Lou 01/13/08 05:21 PM
No Jesus, no Spanish Inquisition. Makes just as much sense.
by Jane 01/13/08 01:52 PM
People who are nuts can take any idea and use it to justify their own personal agendas. Case in point- Bill Foster. It just goes to show how important it is to know who is running for office. Foster for mayor- NOT!
by Marvin 01/13/08 11:06 AM
Mr. Foster, about that retainer, please keep it and apply it toward your higher education.
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