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Obama stirs fight with Florida memo
The Clinton campaign criticizes her rival's insistence that the state's votes won't count.
By ADAM C. SMITH, Times Political Editor
Published January 16, 2008
Barack Obama doesn't care what Florida Democrats say on Jan. 29.
In a memo released Tuesday, he reiterated his long-standing view that their primary votes will be worthless. And he vaguely charged that Hillary Rodham Clinton may violate her pledge not to campaign in Florida by holding events here later this month.
"We signed a pledge not to campaign in Florida before Feb. 5, and we're not going to campaign in Florida," Clinton spokesman Mo Elleithee said. "But it is disappointing that the Obama campaign continues to tell people that their voices don't count, that they continue to disenfranchise people. Hillary Clinton wants to be president of all 50 states."
The Illinois senator's memo stressed that the Democratic primaries in Michigan and Florida are meaningless because the states defied national party rules forbidding all but a handful of states from holding primary elections earlier than Feb. 5.
Because Florida set its primary for Jan. 29, and Michigan for Jan. 15, the Democratic National Committee stripped away all the delegates those states would have awarded toward the Democratic nomination.
What's more, the Democratic candidates signed a pledge to state Democratic leaders in Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina and Nevada not to do any campaigning in Florida and Michigan except to raise money.
"Our position and the position of the DNC is clear -- neither the Florida nor Michigan primaries are playing any role in deciding the Democratic nominee and we are not campaigning in either state," said the Obama campaign memo. It also said, "Clinton may be planning to campaign in the state -- inquiring about large venues and increased organizing activity -- ahead of the Florida primary."
Chris Korge, a top Clinton fundraiser, said the campaign is planning two Miami Beach fundraisers on Jan. 27, one at a bowling alley and one at the home of Michael Adler, a top money-raiser for former presidential candidate Joe Biden. But unlike some $25 events that are quasi rallies, the minimum donation to attend these events will be $1,000.
"Maybe we should send that memo to all the Democratic voters in Florida," Korge quipped of the Obama e-mail.
Technically, Florida Democratic votes don't count because they won't lead to any delegates. But many observers say Florida Democrats will have significant influence just by voicing the preference of party faithful in America's biggest battleground state.
Jen Psaki, spokeswoman for the Obama campaign, said it's simply a matter of following the primary rules. "We plan to compete vigorously in both Florida and Michigan in the general election."
Florida Republicans had half their delegates stripped away, but all the leading Republicans are competing hard here.
[Last modified January 16, 2008, 02:08:44]
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by Mia
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01/29/08 12:53 PM
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Billary is running the MOST NEGATIVE CAMPAIGN I have seen in years! Billary is desperate to use any dirty trick / manipulative tactic possible to hurt Barack Obama because he is doing so much better than they expected. Vote change! Vote Barack!
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by Our votes will count
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01/28/08 09:27 AM
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Our votes, and delegates to the convention, tomorrow will count. Get out and vote!!!
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by Danny
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01/27/08 02:42 PM
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I feel for Florida believe me. But don't right off Obama. Most of the problems with your votes not counting now can be laid at the feet of the DNC or your local party Hacks who often support the status quo (Billary) versus change (Obama).
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by Kiku
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01/26/08 07:19 PM
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Obama does care about people in Florida. But, he cares about following the rules. Watch out for Hillary, she's playing Florida. Please look at the candidates carefully. Remember, Hillary tried to take away voters rights in NV, she would to you too
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by Rmeoses
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01/21/08 09:29 AM
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This idiot Obama doesnt care about Florida .guess what he dosent care about any other stae eathe just a vote to make him democrat runer.hes forgotten one major player.If Hillary loses that leaves John McCAIN OPEN TO to win.Go Hillary ,wake up America
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by Rmeose
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01/21/08 09:23 AM
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see hes allready showing hes alying bigot and a tradior.This Obama what ever his name is adrug user and drug dealer.he wont saluite the American flag.he will sell this country out .He dosent care about America .
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by Jennifer
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01/19/08 01:38 PM
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I know that the world seems to revolve around hearsay. Well I say lets just stick to the facts. Lets not waste time responding to hearsay. Lets stand out with facts. We will win with truth.
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by David
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01/18/08 10:41 PM
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Obama down in the polls here, so he wants to pretend Florida does not matter ! It will in November and we'll know what to do if he is running - vote for the other guy !
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by Kathy
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01/18/08 12:26 AM
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Hilary, thanks for showing that we here in Florida count, and we will show it on electon day when they announce you as our new President. God Bless
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by Sherry
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01/17/08 09:13 PM
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Florida officials messed up trying to change the primary date against rules of the national committee. ALL candidates (incl Hillary) pledged to not campaign there. This article's spin on Obama's memo is biased reporting at its worst.
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by Barbara
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01/17/08 09:11 PM
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Hillary first!
Obama with experience!
See ya Florida and Michigan at nationals.
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by Tersa
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01/17/08 07:30 PM
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Is this anything like the law suit brought out in Nevada to stop voters. That Bill Clinton and Hillary's camp was defending so much, while saying they had nothing to do with it. Defending themselves is a pastime, they started when they married.
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by Lisa
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01/17/08 03:28 PM
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Give it a rest, Florida! Blame the FL Dems for this one. They're the ones that broke the rules, not any candidate. If Hillary didn't need to raise money, she wouldn't be visiting FL at all! Secondly, this article is CLEARLY SLANTED toward Hillary.
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by Eula
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01/17/08 01:53 PM
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Everone's vote should count.For heaven sake your leaving out two states,does UNITED STATES OF AMERICA ring a bell to any candiate except Hillary?
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by Russell
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01/17/08 01:23 PM
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Please refrain from news coverage of Obama. You are giving free publicity to a definite looser.
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by Mike
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01/17/08 12:04 PM
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I'm voting republican, so what do I care ?
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by kathryn
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01/17/08 02:05 AM
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This is a shame we can't listen and see Hillary the one we want as our next president, whats wrong with all the same time with the DMC??? God Bless you Hillary...
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by LET'S USE OUR BRAINS!
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01/17/08 12:31 AM
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people who vote for obama are both totally seduced by his public speaking skills (which demonstrate NOTHING) and his race, which is totally irrelevant and a non-factor. people, THINK instead of being cattle. obama is not the guy. sorry. T-H-I-N-K.
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by alexandra
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01/16/08 11:14 PM
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I think it is disgusting to have no say in the primaries. We've already had one election stolen by the other side, how can the Dems do the same thing
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by JulieR
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01/16/08 11:09 PM
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You won't print this, but this is what Democrats all over the US think of Florida Dems; hence, my change to Independent. Sign me, FormerFloridaDemocrat
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by YET AGAIN
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01/16/08 09:53 PM
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One more time... deja vu all over again, 1st our votes were not counted (remember the last election, now we are told they don't count! Nice....
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by Debbie
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01/16/08 09:30 PM
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We love Hillary in Northwest Florida! She is what this country needs to get us out of the mess we are in! GO HILLARY!!
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by Marga
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01/16/08 09:13 PM
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Personally, I am troubled by our primary system in general, especially that the party as an entity can disenfranchise the voters of any state. Aside from that, if candidates cannot campaign in a state, they also cannot hear that state's voices.
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by Karen
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01/16/08 07:24 PM
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Hillary supporter with lots of relatives in Florida, I hope Hillary goes there to gain their support now and later.Thinking voters will hear the message of a candidate who has made change & will continue to make changes for all of us as pres-go HRC
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by mclain
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01/16/08 04:57 PM
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u guys are stupid- u let this republcian party take advantage of the flroida votes stupid stupid in obamas side- the chairman too. stupido
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by Vicki
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01/16/08 01:36 PM
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Obama's comment (Barack Obama doesn't care what Florida Democrats say on Jan. 29.) again shows that Barack does not really "CARE" about the people, just the votes.Hillary cares about people and wants to talk to them even if she can't have their votes
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by Suzanne i
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01/16/08 01:11 PM
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this is one of the many reasons I will be voting for Hillary, every chance I get. She has shown that she cares about everyone....now and moving forward.As was proven in the last electionl, many FL votes are not counted, but our voice will be heard !
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by Frank
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01/16/08 12:41 PM
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I'm glad there's no democratic advertising - I wish there was no Republican advertising. I'm a life long Republican, and I don't know of one candidate Republican or Democrat worth wasting my vote on.
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by Jessica
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01/16/08 12:36 PM
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This is an unbelievably shoddy piece of reporting that can only be described as a smear job. Disgusting.
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by rebekah
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01/16/08 11:52 AM
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Florida will definitely count even if it's just for momentum in the press. Anyone who disounts Florida is sadly mistaken.
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by Jeff
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01/16/08 11:48 AM
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Consider yourselves lucky, as we were... NOT having to listen to EITHER Osama or Hillary in our state !!
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by Ms. B
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01/16/08 11:47 AM
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They say our votes will not count,but our money does!! Come on Florida... we need to show up at polls in great numbers to make our voices heard. The "Parties" need to know we are out there. We have voices, We want our delegates back. Go Florida!!!
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by JOE
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01/16/08 11:32 AM
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OBAMA IS MAN OF HIS WORD, YEA RIGHT. HE IS JUST LIKE ALSNAKES SELL YOU A HI RATE POLICY AND BAIL AT THE FIST SITE OF PAYOUT. HE IS WORST THAN HILLARY, HUCKABY, AND MITTY. WHERE IS WALDO OR CARMEN SAN DIEGO.
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by Elaine
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01/16/08 11:25 AM
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The rules are that OUR (FLORIDA) delegates will count if the nominee decides to let our votes count. Hillary cares enough to acknowledge us, let's make history and support Hillary Clinton. She is fighting for us before the convention.
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by mary
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01/16/08 11:23 AM
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Good to know he is including everyone, oh except Floridians. At least we aren't invisiable to Hillary!
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