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No auto for Allstate
The insurer can no longer write new policies in the state.
By TOM ZUCCO and KRIS HUNDLEY, Times Staff Writers
Published January 17, 2008
TALLAHASSEE - Florida Insurance Commissioner Kevin McCarty gripped the lectern and leaned into the bank of microphones.
"We're going to hit them where it hurts," he said.
In a move unprecedented in Florida regulatory history, McCarty on Wednesday issued an order banning Allstate Insurance Corp. from writing new auto insurance policies in the state until the company complies with subpoenas sent by state regulators in October.
Allstate wrote nearly $2-billion worth of auto insurance in Florida in 2006, the last year for which statistics are available.
The suspension comes a day after McCarty abruptly halted a public hearing looking into Allstate's underwriting and claims-paying practices in its homeowners insurance business, saying the company had deliberately failed to turn over documents key to the investigation.
Regulators want to know why Allstate, the largest publicly traded U.S. home and auto insurer, has not complied with legislation passed last year that directs insurance companies to lower their homeowner rates. Allstate had asked to raise its homeowner rates an average of 42 percent statewide, a request that was denied in November.
"Who are they to tell us what's relevant?" McCarty said. "I have little choice but to take an action that will send a clear message about how seriously I am taking this issue."
The suspension applies to Allstate Insurance Co., Allstate Indemnity Co. and Allstate Property and Casualty Co., all of which are the company's primary sellers of auto insurance. Two of Allstate's smaller subsidiaries, Encompass Floridian Indemnity and Encompass Floridian Insurance, are not affected by the order.
"They've been horrific in their corporate ethic in terms of not responding to the great reform the Legislature passed last year," said Gov. Charlie Crist, a frequent critic of the property insurers in the state. "I'm of the belief that they are probably violating the law.
"It's greedy and it's wrong."
Allstate is surprised
The financial impact of the suspension eventually could be immense, regulators say, because auto insurance is generally regarded as one of the most lucrative lines of insurance. The second-largest auto insurer in Florida, behind State Farm, Allstate's 1.7-million auto policies represent more than three-quarters of the company's business in Florida.
The company sells about 3,500 new auto policies a week statewide.
"They're going to be losing a lot of money," said Steve Parton, the Office of Insurance Regulation's general counsel, adding that Allstate can appeal to district court to seek an injunction to stop the order.
In a statement Wednesday, Allstate said it was surprised at the actions "based on our dealings with regulators over the course of several months and dozens of phone conversations."
The company said it has already turned over nearly 40,000 documents to regulators and will continue to send more.
"We have not yet received an order and are evaluating our options," Allstate said in a statement. "At this time, it is not clear how this action will affect all of the more than 1,100 Allstate agents in Florida who are small-business owners and employers."
Fine vs. suspension
McCarty said the suspension will not affect current Allstate auto policyholders, who are free to renew their policies with the company.
Those with Allstate homeowner policies will also be unaffected, and the company can continue to sell property insurance.
But because Allstate has stopped writing new homeowner policies and has dropped more than 400,000 policies over the last four years, McCarty said stopping the Northbrook, Ill., insurer from writing new homeowner business would have been pointless.
Regulators said they had two choices after Allstate refused to turn over documents: fine the company $10,000 a day or suspend its certificate of authority to do business. McCarty chose the latter. And he chose the line of insurance he thinks could hurt Allstate the most.
"If Allstate is willing to pay $25,000 per day in fines to a Missouri court for its ongoing failure to provide similar documents," McCarty said, "it's obvious to me that it will take more than a monetary sanction to get them to comply with our subpoenas."
Not everyone thinks McCarty's actions will force Allstate to rush boxes of internal records to Tallahassee.
"This is largely a case of gamesmanship," wrote Thomas Cholnoky, an analyst at Goldman Sachs Group Inc. in a note to investors Wednesday. "It is unlikely Allstate would actually lose its ability to permanently write auto insurance in the state.
"Eliminating the second-largest auto insurer from the market would not help the state's goal of reducing rates - and in fact would have the exact opposite effect."
Agents at most risk
As this high-stakes game of chicken plays out, it appears Allstate agents could suffer the most, at least initially.
Several Allstate agents in the Tampa Bay area declined to comment on McCarty's action, saying their contract with Allstate prohibits them from talking with reporters. Allstate's agents in Florida are required to sell only Allstate insurance.
For the past several years, as Allstate has stopped writing property insurance in Florida, its agents have been allowed to sell a limited number of other companies' products. But veteran agents said even those companies balk at covering certain areas of the state, such as coastline properties, limiting their ability to write non-Allstate policies.
Adam Shores, an Allstate spokesman, said, "At this point, it's unclear how this suspension will affect our agents. They're small-business owners themselves, so we're concerned how this will affect them. A strong portion of their business comes from auto."
Shores said agents' commission on auto policies is about 10 percent of the premium.
Steve Harrell, now an independent agent in Palm Harbor after 24 years with Allstate, said the impact on Allstate's captive agents will depend on the length of the suspension.
"If they're with a seasoned agency, 95 percent of their income is through renewals," which are not impacted by the suspension, he said. "But if they cannot write auto, that's a reasonably significant injury if they don't resolve it soon. I'd be very disappointed."
Potential outcomes
Though Harrell doesn't mind seeing his old company on the hot seat with the state, he doesn't think the current standoff will do anything but aggravate Florida's insurance crisis.
"The solution is not going to come from Tallahassee," he said, saying a state crackdown will only scare insurers away. "They're reluctant to get involved where they feel they don't have control."
State Sen. Bill Posey, R-Rockledge, chairman of the Senate Banking and Insurance Committee, said the action was not designed to punish agents. "They're being bounced around as badly as the consumers are," Posey said. "What choices are there to let the executives know we are serious?
"A lot of companies already said Florida was a hostile environment, and any company that would say that it's hostile is simply putting the bottom line above consumers. This is not a witch hunt. It's a fact-finding mission."
Allstate stock lost 24 cents to close at $50.93 Wednesday on New York Stock Exchange. The stock has declined about 20 percent in the past 12 months.
Allstate does have one other option: It could leave the state.
"You mean the company that's charging our citizens the most? I'm not concerned about that at all," Crist said. "Good riddance."
Times staff writers Steve Bousquet and Paul Swider contributed to this report. Tom Zucco can be reached at zucco@sptimes.com or (727) 893-8247.
Q&A The fallout
What does this mean for existing Allstate auto customers?
Absolutely nothing. Policyholders are unaffected by the suspension. Customers can still make claims and get assistance from agents. Allstate auto policyholders can renew policies and add endorsements.
Are Allstate homeowner policies affected?
Not at all.
[Last modified January 17, 2008, 00:37:25]
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by BOB
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01/18/08 11:04 AM
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IT'S ABOUT TIME SOMEONE WENT AFTER THESE
INSURANCE CROOKS !!!
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by Hooray
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01/18/08 04:16 AM
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QUOTE FROM AMY:If Crist won't do it I say McCarty for Govenor! He has had more impact in 1 meeting then Crist since the election"
YOU HIT THE NAIL RIGHT ON THE HEAD!! CAN'T AGREE WITH YOU MORE, WE WENT FROM BUSH TO CRIST, GOD PLEASE HELP FLORIDA!!
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by Bill
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01/17/08 10:33 PM
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Attaboy(s) McCarty and Crist. The arrogance of this industry makes me sick. They're simply gouging the public and finally some politicos have called them on he carpet. "Government By The People For The People...." Hell of a job Guys!
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by Stephanie
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01/17/08 09:20 PM
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Funny & not funny! This should have happened years ago, what about Nationwide's allowed 125% rate increase? Why did they let them have that then turn around and do this to Allstate over 42% Why are they all allowed to cancel homes? SHAM
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by Uncle
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01/17/08 08:59 PM
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Maxie, you get the award for dumbest post. Ask New Jersey how they liked state of New Jersey Auto Insurance 10 years ago when the average auto policy was about $4K per year for one vehicle. This grand standing by the state is helping no one.
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by Charles
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01/17/08 08:51 PM
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It's about time someone told big business that enough is enough. They pay their executives millions then say that they're losing money. Yeah, right!
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by Joe
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01/17/08 08:17 PM
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The state should take over all Homeowners & Auto insurance and then re-insure themselves. Keep all profits for the state.
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by Ron
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01/17/08 07:46 PM
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If they won't sell us the home insurance, maybe we shouldn't buy the auto insurance either. A loss of almost $2 Billion in business might get their attention.
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by Howard
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01/17/08 06:14 PM
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Great way to work on solving a problem. Great Statesmanship. I think Allstate should leave. Where would all those Auto policies Go ? Would rates go up ? Allstate can profit very well without Fl. It is too bad about the all the employees though.
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by Katie
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01/17/08 05:39 PM
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This is ludacris. How can you punish small business owners and their well being (as well as their employees!) for something that is not their fault?
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by Landry
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01/17/08 05:20 PM
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Middle class Insurance Salesmen??? If my insurance salesman is middle class, then by comparison, I am living below poverty.
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by chuck
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01/17/08 05:14 PM
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we need the state to treat driving without insurance like we do drunken drivers call it a DWI(Driving Without Insurance) with the same penalties
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by Pat
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01/17/08 04:28 PM
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Think you need to update your article. Per TBO, it had been extended to ALL policies by noon today.
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by Maxie
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01/17/08 02:28 PM
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I think we should have a State of Florida Auto Insurance - like Citizens - tell the rest to go to !!!! Let Florida people make a statement ot the rest of the nation!
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by Kona
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01/17/08 01:07 PM
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The insurance companies are lying. They have already violated the intent of insurance (to spread the risk) by creating the $$Pup-Companies$$. This stinks like ENRON.
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by Bill
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01/17/08 12:52 PM
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Well let's see State Frames rate went down by 7%. Yes Down so how does this not work cliff
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by john
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01/17/08 12:49 PM
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Thanks Mr Crist. You have my election for Govenor really easy. As an employee thanks for caring. What ever happened to working towards a win-win solution. Just because our Legislature doesn't have the B.... to really find out you say goodbye. See
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by Fred
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01/17/08 12:12 PM
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I've been trashing all those Awful-state auto solicitation since they've been cancelling the homeowners policies.
But the few Florida insurance companies are screwing us too. Gotta mention Farm Bureau who seems to think they are above the law too.
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by ralph
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01/17/08 12:10 PM
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Finally we have a Governor that will take action and do something. My hat goes off to this gentleman for giving us positive leadership and help out of this quagmire. I salute you sir.
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by yep
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01/17/08 11:53 AM
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If you are summoned before court or a reglatory board and do not furnish the requested documents you are punished. Same for individuals as big companies. As for the "middle class" salesman...don't blame the commish, blame your own company execs
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by PTG
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01/17/08 11:52 AM
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The state has no business dictating rates to any business or company, just enforcing anti-trust laws. How about everyone stop their whining and complaining and take some personal responsibility. If you don't like Allstate's rates, go to State Farm.
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by Cheryl
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01/17/08 11:39 AM
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I may just take the governor's advice and pull my car insurance from Allstate. If nothing else, just to send a message.
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by tom
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01/17/08 11:16 AM
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Each individual driver is personally responsible for what can happen with a ton of steel at 60 mph. We are forced by law. Well, that is extortion; it's a racket. McCarty's office functions? Wonderful! 1st time in how many years?
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by John
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01/17/08 10:50 AM
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Insurance companies have been having their own way (at our expense) for far too long. I praise the courage of Com. McCarty. Hopefully citizens will show as much courage, and support him.
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by melissa
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01/17/08 10:40 AM
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trying to stop the sale of auto policies over a homeowner policy issue is ridiculous. anyone who has allstate for their auto insurance knows you get what you pay for and will stick by the company during this persicution by unprofessional state reps.
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by Cliff
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01/17/08 10:06 AM
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Regulate the price of anything and you will have less of it, as we've seen with FL insurance. If a bunch of gov't hacks were trying to run my Company, I'd leave too. Mcarty wont suffer the consequences of his hamfisted actions. We will.
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by NIck
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01/17/08 09:52 AM
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You're in good hands.
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by Ripped Off
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01/17/08 08:53 AM
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I have a new hero - Kevin McCarty. Who else has held the insurance companies accountable for their obscene rate requests? How can a 42% increase be justified? 42%! The citizens of this state have been ripped off by these companies for far too long.
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by Amy
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01/17/08 08:35 AM
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Hooray!!! It's about time someone stood up to the insurance company. If Crist won't do it I say McCarty for Govenor! He has had more impact in 1 meeting then Crist since the election.
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by CJ
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01/17/08 08:35 AM
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It's time to let Citizen's get the homes that have been cherry picked by the All States' and such to build the reserves. It's unfortunate, but gotta do it. All State and the others don't deserve to cherry pick and make all the profits w/ house money.
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by Drew
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01/17/08 07:08 AM
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Homeowners Insurance companies have been raking it in the last few years, making 100's of billions of $. Yet our insurance rates have skyrocketed. About time the companies get hit. Too bad it won't effect our rates.
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by marc
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01/17/08 07:05 AM
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Way to go Kevin McCarty! It's all about money, so hit 'em where it hurts. Its not FL Govt hurting the salesmen/agents, its Allstate and their refusal to come clean. Finally, some action from Tallahassee.
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by rick
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01/17/08 06:34 AM
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no tears for allstate or the local agents, john harrison on central tried to screw me out of 150, cost them 250 after i proved them wrong pluse all the accounting time. kick the bums out of the state.
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by jmmy
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01/17/08 06:04 AM
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In a state where a tiny handful of companies write almost all of the casualty insurance, there's little the regulators can do. It's the predictable result of over-regulation, whether in banking, insurance or any other line of business.
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by Steve
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01/17/08 04:33 AM
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Unprecedented tactic will likely not improve the burden carried by Citizen's Ins. Co. Wait until the next major hurricane(s) hit and Citizens doesn't have enough $, we'll all pay. Funny how Louisiana, after Katrina, is a stable insurance market...
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