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Past haunts McCain here
The GOP has a long memory for positions outside the box.
By JENNIFER LIBERTO, Times Staff Writer
Published January 22, 2008
JACKSONVILLE - Conservative talk radio pundits roar at him. Party insiders quietly grind their teeth. Columnist George Will calls him a closet Democrat.
As the presidential campaign unfurls across Florida, with candidates fanning out from South Florida to Pensacola on Monday, a central question undergirds the drama of who might win. The question is this: Why don't Republicans like Sen. John McCain very much?
He's a bona fide war hero, a high-profile defender of the war in Iraq, a consistent opponent of abortion and about the noisiest opponent of federal spending in the U.S. Senate.
Yet his two big primary victories, in New Hampshire three weeks ago and Saturday's vote in South Carolina, came because he was able to draw from a deep well of support among independent voters.
Among Republicans alone, McCain has yet to come in first, which is no idle statistic since Florida's primary is closed to independents.
"McCain has taken some positions that are not 'idealistically' within the very narrow limits of how people define conservative-ism," said Tom Slade, a McCain supporter and former Republican Party of Florida chair.
McCain says his naysayers within the GOP just don't like his tendency to call it like he sees it.
"I came here to Jacksonville to tell people what they want to hear," he said at a press conference at a private airport, "and sometimes what they don't want to hear."
But conservative voters don't see it quite that way.
"He doesn't always line up with what we believe in," said Chandra Judy, 34, of Orlando, who was waiting for Mike Huckabee to arrive. "I think it's not really distrust; I think they're looking at his record. When the issues came up, how did he vote?"
Her examples include McCain's support of an immigration bill, which he co-wrote with liberal icon Sen. Ted Kennedy of Massachusetts, that would have granted illegal immigrants a way to become citizens after paying fines and fees and meeting other requirements.
There are other votes, too. McCain opposed President Bush's tax cuts in 2001, and also voted against them in 2003. He said he opposed them first because they carried no companion restrictions on spending and then because the Iraq war had begun and he thought cutting taxes was ill-advised during war.
In 2006, McCain voted to extend the tax cuts because he said letting them phase out by then would have amounted to a tax increase.
But to Republicans who have watched McCain and winced, it isn't just that his positions have been bad. His timing has stung, too.
Republican consultant Brett Doster, who worked on Bush's campaigns, said McCain's public criticism of the early Iraq strategy irked administration supporters. McCain remains a vocal critic of the early strategy, and Doster said his early call for more troops still isn't recalled fondly by conservatives - even though McCain turned out to be right.
"For a lot of conservatives, there have been some real pressure points in this administration, and Republicans, as a whole, have kind of closed ranks," Doster said. "McCain was a contrarian at times when people didn't like it."
And another thing
Local Republican leaders are still smarting, too, over McCain's signature legislative victory, the McCain-Feingold Act, which sharply limited the role party money could play in federal elections.
"This really hurt McCain with all the people like me, the insiders, because we're the ones who are so affected by McCain-Feingold," said Palm Beach County Party chairman Sid Dinerstien, who is uncommitted. "But we're also the ones who vote in all the primaries and also are supposed to get out the vote. That's why he doesn't do so well in primaries."
The campaign finance law is just one of several examples of McCain working with a Democrat to advance his agenda, something McCain himself touts on the campaign trail. But for some Republican voters, McCain works just a little too easily with Democrats.
McCain was part of the so-called Gang of 14, a collection of mostly moderate senators from both parties who brokered an end to a high-stakes dispute over Bush's judicial appointments. Although the group struck a deal that helped Bush get some long-delayed judges seated, McCain's affinity for compromise wasn't entirely appreciated.
"There's been a number of things that he has done while he has been in the Senate," said Walt Bagley, 62, from Casselberry. "Being in the Group of 14 trying to control everything, trying to support amnesty on immigration, his law on campaign finance."
Adding fuel to the fire these days is the resurfacing of reports that back in 2004, McCain was initially receptive to the possibility of becoming the running mate to Democratic Sen. John Kerry.
"You vote for people, because you believe you share common values. But if on the big issues, you've got big differences, it causes you to question how much in common you have," said Paul Bedinghaus, former Pinellas County GOP chairman. "A voter doesn't want to have to wonder what his presidential choice is going to do in appointing justices to the Supreme Court."
Times staff writers David DeCamp and Adam Smith contributed to this report.
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by Mark
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01/30/08 07:26 PM
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You guys are way off. McCain is very conservative (ACU rating of 84%). He just also is very pragmatic and plays well with others. I think people are a little tired of how politics is played today, and McCain appeals to those folks.
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by GRACE PAYTON
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01/24/08 04:11 AM
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WE NEED A LIBERTARIAN TO SAVE THIS COUNTRY. DEFEND CONSTITUTION,
BILL OF RIGHTS. SHRINK THE SIZE OF GOV'T. REPEAL INCOME TAX. BRING
TROOPS HOME FROM AROUND WORLD,SAVING
TRILLION A YEAR.SECURE BORDERS,
REPAIR INFRASTRUCTURE.VOTE FOR RON PAUL.
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by GRACE
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01/24/08 04:02 AM
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RON PAUL IS THE ONLY CANDIDATE, WHO TALKS ABOUT SAVING S.S. SEARCH H.R.219. THE ONLY GOP CANDIDATE WHO WANTS TO GET OUT OF IRAQ. THE ONLY ONE WHO KEEPS HIS
OATH OF OFFICE TO DEFEND CONSTITUTION
AND BILL OF RIGHTS. PLEASE PUBLISH IT.
...NOW!
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by GRACE
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01/24/08 03:57 AM
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McCAIN HAS ZERO EXPERIENCE IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR. OUT OF TOUCH W/US
BOMB, BOMB IRAN SICK SENSE OF HUMOR.
UNDIGNIFIED...BAD TEMPERMENT.. THINKS
WAR IS THE SOLUTION TO EVERYTHING. ONLY
THING HE KNOWS. EVERY WAR HERO CAN'T BE
PRESIDENT. HE'S SCARY!
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by Lee
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01/23/08 07:12 AM
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why so short time of posting comments?
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by John
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01/22/08 11:11 PM
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Yep, McCain is a Democrat in Republican's clothing. He's a RINO (Republican in Name Only). He has backstabbed genuine Republicans too many times and doesn't deserve to represent us. My vote is for Mitt Romney, a true agent of positive change!
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by Mary
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01/22/08 10:26 PM
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McCain is tops in my book! He is the only one that can beat Hilary. Who wants a conservative, we need a moderate to save this country.
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by Pat
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01/22/08 09:39 PM
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McCain has the integrity, experience, quality of character,and judgement to best lead the country. I like the fact he is a bit of a maverick. The old line conservative approach is not best for the country. We nee a man who decides what is best.
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by bill_in_nh
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01/22/08 08:13 PM
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So we should put up RINO Mitt Romney (who couldn't win Iowa, NH or SC after outspending his GOP rivals by umpteen to one), and get creamed by Hillary, instead of a guy with an 85% lifetime conservative voting record? Say wha'?
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by Sara
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01/22/08 07:42 PM
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I am tired of this guy getting a free pass, let's name a National Day of Thanks to McCain for his war service, then let's move on and get a real candidate
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by Don
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01/22/08 07:38 PM
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Can he just go away and retire the war hero? He does not have the brains, the temperment, the values to be president of either party
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by Mike
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01/22/08 06:32 PM
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McCain's should retire gracefully. Nominating him will lead to massive GOP defections and defeat just as Senator Bob Dole did. Is McCain really the best the GOP can find?
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by Wesley
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01/22/08 05:37 PM
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There is no shame in saying you are in the wrong party and getting out, Lieberman did it, McCain needs to bow out of GOP.
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by Tim
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01/22/08 05:32 PM
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If you're a republican who supports Amnesty for illegals and 100 years of fighting in the Middle East, vote for Israeli Joe Lieberman's stooge candidate, John McCain
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by cc
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01/22/08 05:20 PM
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Sen. McCain is not completely pro-life--he supports stem cell research. He is also not pro-family. He officially is for man/woman marriage, but has hemmed and hawed in the past. check out www.realmccain.com
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by Sharon
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01/22/08 05:15 PM
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I would not vote for this man because of his vicious temper. If you disagree with him, you are his enemy for life. Also I don't like the way he threw his 1st. wife overboard for a newer model.
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by Reid
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01/22/08 05:02 PM
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McCain is not going to make it much further, i he does, he can just be on the ticket with Hillary as vice prez, they agree on most things
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by Fred
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01/22/08 04:54 PM
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Listen, I don't agree with McCain on everything, but he's the only Repub who can get elected in November. I'd much rather have McCain than Hillary!
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by Devin
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01/22/08 04:50 PM
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I thought it was just Hilary supporters who used such soaring rhetoric like "moron" What great dialogue going on here!
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by Pat
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01/22/08 04:48 PM
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Your name is Tickle and you call me a moron? Name calling is what you do when you have nothing else
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by Chad
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01/22/08 04:26 PM
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Did I see someone call Mitt a "buffoon". That is too funny. Do you mean the most qualified of all candidates and one of the most respected business men in the country is a buffoon? Tell me how anyone would be better for real change than Mitt?
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by Madmom
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01/22/08 04:22 PM
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McCain is not a conservative. Pro military, Pro life doesn't make a conservative. Anti free speach pro illegal immigration, anti conservative judges makes a liberal. God help us if he wins.
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by Mack
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01/22/08 04:20 PM
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A McCain victory would greatly hurt the republican party. He is just too liberal on too many domestic issues. With Thompson gone, the only good canidate left is Mitt Romney.
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by Al
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01/22/08 04:06 PM
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What we will need for the next 4 years is a business person who can help keep our economy going. If this is not done the war on terror will grind to a stop because the Democrats will continue to side with the terrorists. Romney or Rudy are best.
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by Melissa
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01/22/08 03:58 PM
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A true conservative, Fred Thompson will be missed. According to the latest Rasmussen poll Romney is leading in Florida. It looks like the Fred Heads are migrating away from the RINOS (Republicans In Name Only). Huckabee and McCain would both hope
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by Chip
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01/22/08 03:33 PM
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McCain doesn't know who or what he is that is why he spends so much that is why he spsends so much time talking about who and what he is.
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by Dwayne
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01/22/08 03:27 PM
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The word is 'economy' Gloria. Buy a clue.
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by lance
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01/22/08 03:24 PM
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McCain is the only one who doesn't sidestep the "Iraq question"?
What IS the Iraq question?
Is it, "why the hell did we spend 1 trillion dollars on a ludicrous military adventure?"
I don't think McCain addresses that one.
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by bill sangiovanni
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01/22/08 02:59 PM
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sen.McCain is a heck of a lot better than anyone the Dems can offer-let's cool our myopic vision!!
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by Tim
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01/22/08 02:49 PM
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McCain didn't destroy the GOP - Delay, Abramoff, Limbaugh, and the other "good old boys" sold out the party faithful for a few $$$. McCain's trying to bring us back to true, Reagan conservatism, not K Street conservatism, like Mitt and his lobbyists.
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by Chuck
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01/22/08 02:47 PM
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If there was something wrong with McCain's position on the Iraq war, then why does he get so much support from veterans?
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by Christopher
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01/22/08 02:21 PM
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It's funny how everyone thinks hillary is going to beat Mitt romney in a head to head battle. The liberal media wants to paint that picture but the truth is they are scared. Mitt is the only consistant leader who would actually make REAL CHANGE.
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by Ed
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01/22/08 01:58 PM
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When I was in Iraq for the Invasion we didn't have enough troops, decent food or mail delivery for the first two months. For McCain's fight for the surge I think he is not only a hero of The NAM war but of those fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan too.
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by Miami Dave
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01/22/08 01:53 PM
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McAmnesty is finished... he's going to have a Rudy awakening when he realizes most republicans let him slip through the crack in 2000 for a reason!
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by Dan
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01/22/08 01:43 PM
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McCain is a pro-war liberal. He has repeatedly voted against tax cuts, he wrote the amnesty bill with Ted Kennedy, he wrote the unconstitutional campaign finance bill with Feingold and he rutinely attacks US businesses as "evil". Go Romney in '08!!
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