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Special report: The homeless struggle

Homeless must move from St. Petersburg City Hall

The City Council passes two ordinances affecting the homeless.

By MELANIE AVE, Times Staff Writer
Published January 25, 2008


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"Hi my name is Tony Ferguson and I live at 405 15th Street North (St. Vincent De Paul)," said Ferguson to the City Council members on Thursday evening. Ferguson, a military Veteran, is homeless.

ST. PETERSBURG -- The makeshift homeless camp of bicycles, sleeping bags, boxes, shopping carts and barrels outside City Hall will be disappearing soon.

On Thursday, the City Council unanimously approved two ordinances that place tighter restrictions on homeless people's actions -- and belongings -- downtown.

The ordinances, which take effect Feb. 1, prohibit people from sleeping on public land during the day or leaving personal items along the public right of way, including sidewalks.

People whose belongings remain after Feb. 1 will be given a 36-hour warning before their items are seized, said Deputy Mayor David Metz. Items that are deemed hazardous will be removed immediately.

In separate action, the council approved a 90-day pilot program to pay for storage units at the St. Vincent de Paul shelter at a cost of $6,500. The units would be free for the homeless. Originally the city considered storage at two shelters and portable bathrooms.

After the vote on the restrictions, several homeless people and advocates stormed out of the meeting in anger.

"Cowards!" muttered Joyce McCarty.

"Thank you for making the city more fascist," yelled the Rev. Bruce Wright, an advocate for the homeless, before he stepped out.

Wright predicted the city would be hit with a rash of lawsuits from homeless people who believe their constitutional rights have been trampled by the laws.

But city attorney John Wolfe said the ordinances were mirrored after those in other cities, including Sarasota, which have been upheld by the courts.

About 30 people spoke before the vote. About half were in support; half were opposed.

Many of those pushing for the beefed-up restrictions on the homeless were business owners and downtown residents who said they are tired of loitering, panhandling, public urination and the unsightly mountain outside City Hall, running along Fifth Street and Second Avenue N.

Bill Mills, who owns a film production business, said he believes the city is being held hostage by the homeless.

"There are people who need help," he said. "I'm all for that. What I object to is the pile of garbage sitting out here on this corner."

The no-sleeping ordinance extends from 16th Street to the bay and from Fifth Avenue N to Fifth Avenue S. It also extends through the Central Avenue corridor to 31st Street.

Even though several people referred to the piles as junk, Melissa Mushol said they are mistaken.

"The stuff out there is our personal belongings," said Mushol, who said she was homeless off and on for 10 years until recently when she found an apartment.

After the meeting ended and the crowd dispersed, several homeless people said an upset Mushol was arrested for disorderly conduct for talking too loudly outside.

"See?" said Wright to a reporter. "This is the harassment we have to deal with."

[Last modified January 25, 2008, 08:43:31]


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by Joyce 02/04/08 02:16 PM
The local city government sure knows how to mistreat the homeless in St. Petersburg, Florida. "Cowards!" muttered Joyce. I stated it loud enough so anyone could hear what I said.
by joey 01/31/08 01:38 PM
how sad that we disgust over unsightly trash (people's belongings) in public, instead of distress the fact that people are in desperate need. how can we expect peace in the world when we dehumanize members of our own society as trash and scum?
by melissa 01/31/08 12:59 PM
I WAS RIGHT TO SAY THAT THIS JUNK IS OUR PERSONNAL THINGS AND NO ONE IN ST PETERSBURG CITY COUNCIL GIVES A DAMNN CAUSE I AM BEHIND ON MY RENT AND MAY LOSE IT BUT NO ONE WILL HELP ME AND I HAVE TRYED EVERY SINGLE AGENCY IN DOWNTOWN ST PETERSBURG....
by Catherine 01/27/08 08:20 AM
If you really want to see what the homeless are doing at city hall, come down most anytime during the day and sit in the park with the big red chairs and watch. They do nothing. Nothing to help themselves. Mostly smoking and talking on cell phones.
by Neil 01/26/08 12:28 PM
Peter, Who's Conde Naste? We come from the UK & fit in a weekend in St Pete to go to Ribfest. There are many reasons to be in a particular place at any one time it doesn't have to be on a list of places to see before you die.
by Ann 01/26/08 10:11 AM
I understand that the tent areas have rules but many of the homeless don't follow the rules (no drugs, etc.) so they are not permitted to stay there or choose not to go at all. Are the homeless people former residents of St. Pete or transients?
by phil 01/26/08 12:28 AM
You know, I'm sorry you people feel so threatened by poor people. you wanted st. pete an urban area, now you complain about the problems expensive urban areas bring. and dont you realize your payin the $ to jail them now? 70 buck a pop? yr not logicl
by brian 01/25/08 07:31 PM
I wish I never bought property in St. Petersburg. I really thought St. Pete could become a great little city, but now I realize it will always be a dump.
by Common Sense 01/25/08 05:08 PM
Why do we not have 24 hr public restrooms, even small villages in England have them!Also, affordable housing, not just "help", but a society that allows even the poor a place to belong. Not just Condos-N-Baseball subsidized by the taxpayers!
by John 01/25/08 05:01 PM
It's about time.......get the scum out of the city !!!!
by Kay 01/25/08 04:40 PM
The programs available are not as good as most think. I sought mental health care in the past, when I was pregnant, and was turned away. "Come back after you deliver" was the answer. The programs don't offer what you may think.
by Eric 01/25/08 02:11 PM
What's your solution, Ryan?
by Paul 01/25/08 11:51 AM
At some point, you have to say enough is enough. I believe we are beyond that point. If you are a veteran, there are programs in place to help you. If you need help, get it. I'm tired of this argument, let's clean our city up and take it back.
by Peter 01/25/08 11:29 AM
Visitors? Who the hell would want to visit St. Petersburg? It's not excatly on Conde Naste's top 10 destinations.
by Neil 01/25/08 11:08 AM
As annual visitors to St Pete we were shocked last Nov by the number of homeless people around the parks. It made us feel uneasy - especially when approached for money. We like St Pete but wondered about returning. Maybe it will better now?
by Ryan 01/25/08 10:58 AM
This is ridiculous. Rather then passing ordinances to help the homeless we are hiding them. Where do you think they are going to go? Into the suburbs and surrounding areas. They arent disappearing just moving. Deeply disappointed in the city council.
by Greg 01/25/08 10:12 AM
So it is ok for the homeless to sleep in public space, just not in highly visible areas of downtown? Hide the poor from view and then we can pretend they don't exist. What a caring way to live! Lockers? Good idea! Unconstitutional ordinance? Bad!
by Janet 01/25/08 09:48 AM
YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thank you very much! Looking at that mess was sickening and can you imagine what visitors to St. Pete must have thought seeing that site? It's an embarrassment for the entire city!
by Bob 01/25/08 09:38 AM
I think all tax payers need to get together and march and hold a rally at Rev Wrights home in Tampa! or lets get together and demand that the homeless leave our city and go else where. Bus them to Tampa to Rev Wrights home. They can move in with him
by Pete 01/25/08 09:32 AM
Wright calls this harassment, yet his actions and demands are harassment to all tax payers in Pinellas. Wright lives in Tampa and owns a condo on Clearwater beach. He crys foul. He needs to move all these homeless to his home in Tampa. Lets bus them
by Paul 01/25/08 09:18 AM
I feel for the homeless but we stopped at City Hall on our bike ride, and sat on the steps to take a short break and couldn't stay. It smelled like urine so bad, we were convinced our health was in danger. Peeing on city hall?! Get out you bums!
by Kay 01/25/08 09:16 AM
Do you realize that now, homeless or not, if you go sit in the park by the bay and happen to fall asleep in your chair that you are subject to arrest? That totally stinks!
by Jimbo 01/25/08 08:10 AM
Good for them! Get the bums out of here. They were all given chances to get back into society, so since they've refused help, let them reap what they sow.
by Henry 01/25/08 07:10 AM
The homeless suck. I don't feel sorry for them, I feel angry that normal tax paying and law abiding citizens have to deal with that filth when they go downtown.
by Mark 01/25/08 06:11 AM
Thats funny the city can pay for storage units for the homeless, but when it comes to their police force they have no money. The police are still without a contract. The city of St Pete sucks.
by Roger 01/25/08 05:11 AM
Perhaps if "Rev" Wright is so unhappy with the city he should take his motley crew and get out of dodge before the sheriff kicks his sorry rear end.
by CrazyIvan 01/25/08 04:35 AM
I feel much safer now. [rolling eyes]
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