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Rays say losses surpass $20M
Team president claims 2 years have been "cash-flow negative."
By AARON SHAROCKMANN, Times Staff Writer
Published January 26, 2008
ST. PETERSBURG - The Rays have lost between $20-million and $30-million since 2005, a team executive revealed Friday as he made the case for a new stadium downtown.
Rays president Matthew Silverman said during a televised luncheon with more than 100 community and civic leaders that the team has lost "between $20-and-$30-million total in cash," over the last two years.
Silverman's sobering financial picture contradicts a report by Forbes, which suggested the team earns about $20-million a year.
But the Forbes projection does not include money still owed to former players or debt payments, Silverman said.
"We're cash-flow negative," he said, meaning the team spent more money than it took in, including revenue sharing.
Rays officials have said before they are losing money but never quantified how much.
The detailing came in response to a question from Cut Taxes Now founder David Mc-Kalip, who asked why the team couldn't pay for a new stadium itself.
In his answer, Silverman also suggested that the team is unlikely to break even if it remains at Tropicana Field through the term of its lease, which expires in 2027.
"The business hasn't been self-sustaining in the past," Silverman said at a Suncoast Tiger Bay Club meeting, shown live on BayNews 9. "... We're getting close to getting back on our feet."
A new stadium, "will help us significantly," he added, but the Rays will not demand one. Nor would Stuart Sternberg, who became principal owner in 2005, sell or move the major-league franchise if a stadium deal cannot be reached, Silverman said.
Silverman and Rays senior vice president Michael Kalt took questions for nearly 20 minutes about the proposed $450-million stadium, as well as the potential redevelopment of Tropicana Field and its adjacent parking lots.
Under the Rays' plan, the team would pay one-third of the stadium construction costs through $10-million-a-year rent payments. The other money would come primarily from property taxes generated by the redevelopment of the Tropicana Field site.
"If you pay $1 in property taxes, you're not going to pay $1.02 or $1.01," to fund a new stadium, Kalt said. "And that dollar's still going to be used for the same thing it's always been used for."
Kalt and Silverman used the forum at the St. Petersburg Yacht Club to attempt to allay concerns over both parking and the design of the stadium, which will feature a sail-like retractable cover but won't be air-conditioned.
The Rays executives also tried to dispel a rumor that the stadium plan is simply part of an effort to move the franchise somewhere else.
"This would be a heck of a convoluted ploy if that is what we were planning to do," Kalt said.
Aaron Sharockman can be reached at asharockman@tampabay.com or 727 892-2273.
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by Mike
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02/07/08 12:40 PM
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Great new team nucleus, aggressive new
ownership, wrong town. If the Rays finish dead last in attendance this year what will be the excuse not to move the team out of Pinellas?
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by Nathan
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02/02/08 08:27 AM
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People that believe Forbes are naive.MLB teams aren't public entities and their financials aren't public record.Forbes can only "guess" what EBIT is.Their figures are garbage.They can print an est of your checking account balance too and be wrong.
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by Jacob
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01/31/08 12:17 PM
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Was just on Forbes.com and they said that the team's operating income was $20 million for 2007 and the same for 2006. Sounds like someone is lying about the negative cash flow problems. Cuts some executive salaries if they are problem.
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by David
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01/31/08 11:43 AM
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Total spin. The days of taxpayers supporting billionaires are done. I don't care if it is a half of a cent, why should we give it to them? It isn't as if they haven't already added it to their hot dog.
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by Albert
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01/30/08 10:27 AM
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I have attended more games last year then all the years before combined.However driving 1 1/2 hrs to an stadium with out air conditioning
will not be in my agenda. This is Fl not San Francisco. Humidity would make the experience unbearable. Get Real
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by Kevin
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01/26/08 12:51 PM
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Look I like the Rays but to say they are losing money is a crock of %&*#. These guys have pulled in a ton of $ from MLB and all of their improvements to the stadium are capital improvements and tax deductible. Billionaires don't lose money
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by Gadfly
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01/26/08 12:23 PM
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If the Rays are to pay for their one third of the new staduim construction costs out of $10,000,000/year rent payments, where does the intitial construction money come from to cover their $150,000,000? Will they seek a loan or taxes from the city?
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by Jacob
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01/26/08 12:21 PM
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The people of Tampa/St. Pete should know that MLB owners are allowed to claim the losses of their teams on their personal taxes. This means that even though the team is losing money, the owner has a lot more cash; his personal taxes are nearly $0.
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by Pete
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01/26/08 08:54 AM
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Strange to think if you have a loss with an a/c stadium what kind of loss will you get without the a/c and gain the misters and the heat. Folks in Tampa don't like to drive to St Pete, but move it there and we will not want to drive
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by Mike
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01/26/08 07:17 AM
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That's a bunch of bull. They get more from the Yankees in that revenue sharing than they spend on payroll! Typical owner speak!
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by CharlieRay
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01/26/08 05:54 AM
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Let's get real, even the FISH in Miami are putting in A/C because they can't put fans in a stadium without A/C. You want to lose MONEY the don't put A/C. I have three season tickets and will not come. I will still be a fan but from the couch in A/C
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