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Clinton alone in push for Florida delegates
By ADAM C. SMITH, Times Political Editor
Published January 26, 2008
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Dave Patlak carries a cardboard cutout of Sen. Barack Obama as he tries to persuade people to vote for him in Miami. The cardboard cutout is the only way for voters to see Obama on the sidewalk since Democratic candidates signed a pledge to party leaders in Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada and South Carolina not to campaign in Florida.
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Trying to ramp up the importance of Florida's Democratic presidential primary, Hillary Clinton on Friday called for her Democratic rivals to join her in helping get Florida delegates seated for the national convention.
They didn't bite.
"I hear all the time from people in Florida and Michigan that they want their voices heard in selecting the Democratic nominee," the New York senator said in a statement. "I believe our nominee will need the enthusiastic support of Democrats in these states to win the general election, and so I will ask my Democratic convention delegates to support seating the delegations from Florida and Michigan."
The Democratic National Committee stripped all the delegates from Michigan and Florida as punishment for scheduling primaries earlier than allowed by national party rules. Winning the nomination requires winning delegates, so technically that makes Florida's Democratic primary meaningless.
But with Clinton comfortably leading in Florida polls, it's in her interest to stress the importance of Florida's Democratic primary and in Sen. Barack Obama's to downplay it. The Obama campaign has repeatedly dismissed the Florida Democratic vote as irrelevant to the nominating contest, which doesn't sit well with some top Florida Democrats.
On Friday, Sen. Bill Nelson, who some Democrats expect to endorse Clinton Tuesday, praised her statement, called on other Democrats to follow her lead, and declared in a statement, "All the talk about Florida's Democratic Primary being meaningless is absurd."
Obama brushed off Clinton's effort, and John Edwards did not even respond.
"Now that Sen. Clinton's worried about losing the first Southern primary, she's using Florida for her own political gain by trying to assign meaning to a contest that awards zero delegates and where no campaigning has occurred," said Obama campaign manager David Plouffe.
Many observers expect the eventual nominee will push to reinstate the delegates at the convention.
Plouffe said Obama will campaign vigorously to win Florida and Michigan in November and, "No one is more disappointed that Florida Democrats will have no role in selecting delegates for the nomination of the party's standard bearer than Sen. Obama."
The Democratic candidates also signed a pledge to Democratic leaders in Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada and South Carolina not to campaign in Florida. Clinton is sticking to that pledge, though she will be in South Florida and Sarasota on Sunday raising money at private receptions. Fundraising is allowed under that pledge.
While Obama is brushing off Florida's primary, his supporters are still trying to drum up votes. St. Petersburg resident Michael Tollar, a Clinton supporter, said an Obama supporter knocked on his door recently, gave him an Obama flier and urged him to support Obama.
Adam C. Smith can be reached at asmith@sptimes.com or 727893-8241.
[Last modified January 25, 2008, 23:56:28]
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by Edna
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03/10/08 10:07 AM
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To PEP: THANKS! And to Jay: I agree that Howard Dean deserves the bulk of the wrath/blame here! But I will say the Repubs should NOT have moved up the primary date. That said, the punishment does NOT fit the crime & is misdirected at innocent voters.
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by Jay
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03/07/08 08:09 PM
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Amendment 1 is for "Save Our Homes" btw.
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by Jay
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03/07/08 08:07 PM
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To Edna: Dont blame the repub on something Howard Dean did. It was HIS decison not to count Florida Votes. I am also from Fl and can say it was very not fair to Obama. The high turn out rate wasn't even for hillary but for amendant 1 to pass.
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by PEP
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03/05/08 05:38 PM
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Edna and PR : I agree - your vote should count if it's going to be 'a Government of the people'. Good luck to both of you.
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by Edna
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03/05/08 09:04 AM
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I totally agree with you, PR: once again, the voters of Florida are being disenfranchised due to forces beyond our control. It is exquisitely painful this time because our own party heads are the ones circling up the firing squad.
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by PR
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03/04/08 11:42 AM
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It is the fault of the democratic party but not that of the people who voted. We had no control over the dates of the primaries. Again, we the Florida people are voiceless. This should bother you no matter who you voted for.
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by PR
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03/04/08 11:41 AM
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I'll bet if the "W" was running ahead, our Florida voices would count. Isn't this state tired of not being heard?
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by Edna
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03/04/08 08:02 AM
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P.S. Also to lamar: it is NOT the Dem party of FL's fault that we lost the delegates. That boneheaded decision was made by the DNC as punishment for a rule change effected by the REPUB-controlled legislature. GIVE US OUR DELEGATES!!!!!!
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by Edna
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03/04/08 08:00 AM
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To "lamar" who said: "she did campaign in FL i was at one of her rallys", that is simply NOT true: none of the Dem. candidates campaigned in FL, PERIOD. (Obama, however, did run an ad on CNN that aired in FL.) Clinton thanked FL AFTER the election.
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by lamar
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03/03/08 04:41 PM
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get rid of mcclinton
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by lamar
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03/03/08 04:39 PM
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she did campaign in florida i was at one of her rallys,it is our party fault here in florida that we wont be seated we got greedy tried to push the rest of the party and lost hillary knows that .that strikes of a dying campaign
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by Edna
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03/03/08 03:12 PM
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P.S. To "Jimmy" who said: "Isn't Hillary's campaiging in FL equal to breaking a union picket line? Slick Hilly at her best (she will say or do anything to get elected)!": U don't know the facts: Clinton did NOT campaign in FL. COUNT OUR VOTES!
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by Edna
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03/03/08 03:10 PM
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If Obama is so concerned about FL not having a voice, why doesn't he join in calling for our votes to count? Oh, that's right, because it doesn't benefit him. Well, if he doesn't want my vote in the primary, I guess he doesn't want it in the general.
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by Sharon
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02/12/08 03:19 AM
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Passage of Florida legislative bill HB 537 has caused 1,684,390 US voters to become disenfranchised. Unless the RNC & DNC policies are changed, this could happen to you some day; regardless of your state or party.
http://florida-delegates.com
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by K
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02/07/08 12:10 PM
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Senator Clinton's campaign has chosen to push to change the rules while the Democratic nominating process is already underway.
It's not fair! Sign the petition to stop her initiative. http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/Give-Us-Fairness
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by Shell
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01/29/08 10:40 PM
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Its just another way for the Repulicans to get us, our votes just dont seem to be worth anything. I personally wish the Florida Democrats had swarmed the DNC with calls & emails, Repulicans controlled the moving up of the date, but Dems are punished.
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by Jimmy
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01/28/08 11:40 AM
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Isn't Hillary's campaiging in Florida equal to breaking a union picket line? Slick Hilly at her best (she will say or do anything to get elected)!
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by John
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01/27/08 11:28 AM
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I personally think that removing Florida's delegates just makes a mockery of the election system. The fact that Clinton would win there but can't have those delegates is ridiculous. Obama and others obviously don't want a fair primary race.
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by betsy
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01/26/08 11:43 PM
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Absolutely ABSURD not to count EVERY state and for myself, I would worry about ANY presidential candidate who would not support EVERY state's votes to count - even if it puts them behind. EVERY citizen counts not just those who support you!
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by DRew
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01/26/08 12:36 PM
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Please let Hillary know that she is not entitled to the presidency by voting for Barack Obama. He's running a clean and respectful campaign while the Clinton's get ugly. Shame on them. Trying to game the system half way through the election.
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by Richard
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01/26/08 09:53 AM
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Hillary is crying as usual. She will be a disgrace to America if she becomes president. I'm an Independent.
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by Ned
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01/26/08 09:42 AM
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They say $80 million was spent by candidates in other states like Iowa and New Hampshire before Fla primary. That's gotta hurt more than losing delegates.
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by Lori
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01/26/08 07:31 AM
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As shown in Florida, the nomination process is flawed. As shown in 2000, the electoral college renders the popular vote meaningless, making that system flawed. It's time to change the process. It's time to change the Constitution.
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