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Government error takes $9,000 from a widow
Weeks after her husband died, Social Security cleaned out her bank account.
By CURTIS KRUEGER, Times Staff Writer
Published January 31, 2008
SPRING HILL -- Cheryl Foelster was still grieving over the recent death of her husband when she went to the bank last week to pay some bills.
The bank gave her more bad news: Social Security had taken more than $9,000 out of her account, and said she owed it an extra $3,000.
"It was a shock, let me tell you," said Foelster, 70, a retired nursing assistant.
Social Security has admitted it was a mistake, she says. But as of Wednesday afternoon Foelster was still waiting for the government to return her money.
The mess started because Foelster was trying to do things right. After her husband, Richard, a retired merchant marine, died Jan. 16, Foelster's son called Social Security to let it know.
But someone mistakenly recorded the death as January 2007, making it look like Richard Foelster had been receiving Social Security payments for a year after his death.
Her husband always paid the bills, Cheryl Foelster said. So Friday she went to the bank to show the tellers her bills and make sure she had written them out correctly.
That's when she was told the money had been cleaned out of their joint account. She quickly called her son for help.
"Of course, my mom is panicking," said John Spoor, a detective with the Pinellas County Sheriff's Office.
He spoke to Social Security officials on Friday and several times this week. He also spoke to the offices of Reps. C.W. Bill Young and Ginny Brown-Waite.
At first, Social Security officials told him it would be 30 to 60 days before his mother could get her money back. He kept complaining, and Social Security grew more and more apologetic. He now has been told the money may be returned today.
But Spoor wonders why Social Security officials haven't been able to give the money back as quickly as they took it.
"I understand mistakes happen ... but there's a way to handle a mistake and a way not to handle a mistake," he said.
Patti Patterson, a spokeswoman with Social Security, said she could not comment on Foelster's situation without a signed release from her.
But Patterson said if someone calls Social Security with information about a relative's death, a worker will record the information on a computer if the relative can provide all the relevant facts, such as Social Security number, name and date of birth. The worker does not have to see a death certificate, she said.
If someone has received Social Security benefits improperly, the agency will notify the Treasury Department, which recovers the money, Patterson said.
Spoor said his mother has had enough money to get by the past several days, and he and his sister are standing by if she needs more help.
But Spoor wonders what would have happened if his mother didn't have any money, or a relative who kept complaining.
"They would have sent an elderly woman away from their office on Friday with no money," he said.
[Last modified January 30, 2008, 23:30:17]
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by Kim
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01/31/08 01:05 PM
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Why is it you never post my comments! They are not vulgar and yet each time everyone gets posted but me? I think I better place a call to whoever's in charge over there!
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by Tuck
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01/31/08 11:49 AM
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The Treasury Dept should have reveiwed the case for accuracy before they pulled the funds. It is highly common for people to continue using the previous year for their dates in January. They should have returned the funds immediately.
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by Jacob
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01/31/08 11:35 AM
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I think that Kim needs to realize that this is an elderly person. Sometimes the elderly are not the most dependable to remember to do things. Helping out your elderly parents is not a crime, and I hope your children will take care of you like that.
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by MarkInTO
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01/31/08 10:43 AM
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What I'm wondering is HOW they were able to just go in and withdraw the funds w/o notifying ANYONE. Common sense would dictate that they should've contacted her first to verify details, or at the very least, notify the bank who could contact her.
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by Nature Girl
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01/31/08 09:36 AM
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All that based on a phone call? True documents speak for themselves. That's our gov for ya.
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by Friend
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01/31/08 09:18 AM
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Kim,I have to tell you that your comment makes no sense.Mistakes are made everyday, but just because you are better off,don't assume everyone has your advantages.Plese understand this.
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by Kay
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01/31/08 09:00 AM
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My father's ss account had a similar mistake. He was mistakingly coded as deceased (he is alive) and his money was taken away. It took months to straighten out and even the credit bureaus thought he was dead for a year.
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by Nice to fix this one quick...
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01/31/08 08:55 AM
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This is SO common with Social Security. They mess up, take money from those already struggling, and then tell them it will be MONTHS before they get the money back. In the meantime, people rely on others, charity, or go without food or medication.
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by americanwhocares
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01/31/08 03:49 AM
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Social Security should have to quickly refund the money with INTEREST.
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by Larry
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01/31/08 02:21 AM
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The employee that enterered the wrong dates needs to be fired.
I am tired of hearing stories like this and it gets the standard, "oh we made a mistake" answer.
You cannot cause stress to people like this and just blame it away.
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by Kim
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01/31/08 12:16 AM
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This is a cry out that wives need to know how to take care of family matters and not leave it to the husbands. The son should have not called. He may have gaven the wrong date. Cheryl needs to fight for herself. Son needs to take care of his own.
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by John
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01/31/08 12:09 AM
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And you want the same folks to run Health Care? Are you freaking crazy?
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