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Tax vote opens gate to upscale hideaway
By JAMES THORNER, (Un)Real Estate
Published February 1, 2008
Iasked a simple question and got a surprising answer. My query for David Denslow, a top economist from the University of Florida, was how property tax reform would help Florida attract the baby boomer retirees Realtors are counting on to resurrect their careers. After all, the portability provision, which allows in-state residents to transfer their tax breaks to a new house, doesn't apply to the out-of-state retirees who have historically buttered Florida's bread. Denslow didn't miss a beat: Richer retirees will flock to our fair peninsula. Many poorer ones will be opt for Alabama, Georgia, Tennessee and the Carolinas. If Denslow's right and Florida is becoming a more economically exclusive state, I think it's significant news for the housing market. True, some parts of the home market may suffer if migrating New Yorkers and Ohioans turn right before reaching Jacksonville. Migration from other states slowed last year to a relative trickle, although foreign immigrants are picking up some of the slack. But I can't help thinking a richer state will be a nicer state. People will happily pay more for a house if it means a better-quality life. The transformation's already begun in place like Pasco County, where new homes are socked with more than $10,000 in fees to pay for infrastructure like roads, libraries, schools and parks. Homes now have garages - many of them three-car - not just car ports. We demand trees and landscaping, not just sand-blasted moonscapes developers foisted on buyers decades ago. Restaurants will have to transcend fast food chains and $5 grouper sandwiches. And try selling a house to a young family without a soccer field or pool in the vicinity. There's something to be said for cheap living. But we're not just a poor man's paradise anymore, where a high school dropout from New York could start anew or penniless retirees could camp out in a trailer on the gulf. California was once a dusty place full of miners and Spanish missions. But its beauty, climate and vitality have made the state a desirable location worth paying for. I know some still pine for the Old Florida of sweating under the tin roof, of Johnny Reb and Yankee Go Home. But the state's going more upscale, like it or not. In approving tax reform this week, voters unknowingly nudged that transformation along. Tampa Bay: Look to Sarasota and Naples and glimpse your future. Better get used to having filet mignon with those grits. James Thorner can be reached at thorner@sptimes.com. Read his UnReal Estate blog at blogs.tampabay.com/real estate.
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by B
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02/03/08 08:29 AM
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Thank goodness Pasco got their impact fees straight. If development pays for itself it does not become a tax burden. Planning dept use concurrency to force developers to fund infrastructure themselves. Narkiewicz and Blair will differ of course.
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by jason
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02/02/08 11:22 AM
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Is Thorner for real? Under what rock has he been living? He seems surprised that houses now have garages, lol. *rolls eyes*
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by Dr_Dug
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02/02/08 09:39 AM
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Smoke another one DUDE. And when the new "Rich" Floridians need firemen, they can call Alabama, Georgia, Tennessee and the Carolinas for help, cause thats where the REAL PEOPLE will be living. BALANCE THE BUDGET FOOLS!!!!
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by Pete
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02/02/08 08:44 AM
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Many of the poor will stay hiding in your alley ways and back yards. They will be the ones mowing the lawns and trimming your trees. Yes there will always be many tailer parks to dot the land
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by John
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02/02/08 07:58 AM
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Coming from someone who's looking for housing RIGHT NOW due to an emergency, I can tell you that I simply cannot afford any decent place myself and my 3 kids, and I make $40k a year. Rent on a 3-bedroom place is over $1100 a month. Who pays that?!?!?
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by jesse
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02/01/08 10:49 PM
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elitist...
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by Melissa
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02/01/08 08:18 PM
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Hopefully this will end the white trash that permeates in Florida!
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by voxy
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02/01/08 04:20 PM
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whew aren't you a breath of rancid air? and yall already got the pesky homeless all figured out too. Gee the problem is that not all rich people are nice. ENJOY!
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by JT
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02/01/08 03:02 PM
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That sounds great! Thanks for the uplifting perspective.
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by Ed
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02/01/08 11:59 AM
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Denslow's the man. I was one of his students at UF many years ago. Love that dude...
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by Greg
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02/01/08 11:58 AM
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Sure...more rich people will come here, further driving up the cost of living, yet companies still won't pay enough, thus us working class will have no choice to move...who's going to do all of the work when we leave?!?
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by Helen
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02/01/08 11:29 AM
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You need a good income to pay for all this. Taxes and insurance are high, services costs are rising well above inflation and FL workers' income is very low compared to national figures. Our state is dying.
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by kitty
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02/01/08 11:26 AM
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Mr. Thorner, the ONLY hope Florida EVER has for becoming more upscale is to pay enough so that young gamily looking to move near a soccer field and pool can actually AFFORD the home. No matter how you spin it, $12 an hour jobs don't allow for upscale
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by Dave
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02/01/08 11:20 AM
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The article is correct. Florida will be come a rich man's stste as high taxes and high home owner's insurance rates are driving the working class people out of the state! Florida used to be a good place to live!!!
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by Paul
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02/01/08 11:05 AM
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Rich people look for bang for the buck as well, sir. We may have the means to pay more, but unlike the Hollywood rich lifestyle, wealthy people scrutinize what we spend our money on (perhaps more so than others).
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