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Gay marriage on ballot
An initiative to ban same-sex marriage in Florida is certified for the November vote.
By ALEX LEARY, Times Staff Writer
Published February 2, 2008
TALLAHASSEE - The gay marriage battle has arrived in Florida.
A proposed constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage qualified for the November ballot in a last-minute petition tally Friday night - a development that could affect this fall's presidential election.
But a much closer watched, higher stakes measure did not make the deadline. Advocates for Hometown Democracy, which is pushing an initiative that would require local referenda for changes to local land use plans, now must aim for the 2010 ballot.
"It proves that private property rights are significantly important to Floridians, as they are to all Americans," said Barney Bishop, chief executive of Associated Industries of Florida and head of an anti-Hometown Democracy group called Save Our Constitution.
The fate of each ballot initiative came down to the final hours of the deadline as state elections workers raced to verify signed petitions faxed in from 67 counties. Backers of the gay marriage initiative thought they had enough signatures in December, but a glitch in state computers put them down by about 22,000.
The so-called marriage protection amendment, three years in the making, would define marriage in Florida as exclusively between a man and a woman.
"No other legal union that is treated as marriage or the substantial equivalent thereof shall be valid or recognized," the amendment language says.
Florida already has a law against gay marriage, but petition organizers say it should be put into the Constitution to protect against lawsuits or future whims of the state Legislature.
"I'm grateful to God first and our supporters second," said John Stemberger, an organizer for Florida4Marriage.org. "The bottom line is kids need a mom and dad. Same-sex marriages subject kids to a vast, untested social experiment."
Currently, 27 states have passed constitutional bans on gay marriage. Massachusetts is the only state that allows same-sex marriage, while a handful of states permit civil unions.
At least 60 percent of Florida voters must agree for the amendment to be added to the state Constitution.
To get on the ballot, a petition must get 611,009 valid signatures, which is 8 percent of Florida voters who cast ballots in the last presidential election. The 8 percent criteria also must be met in at least 13 of Florida's 25 congressional districts.
Florida4Marriage.org collected 649,346 signatures, according to the Secretary of State's Office. It cleared 8 percent in 15 of the 25 districts.
The presence of the proposal has the potential to greatly alter voter turnout in a presidential election year.
Evangelicals and social conservatives now have a much higher motivation to go to the polls.
But the proposal could also spur interest from the opposition, which is vast and diverse. An opposition group, the bipartisan Florida Red & Blue Committee, calls the initiative "dangerous and disingenuous."
Jon Kislak, chairman of the group, said Friday night: "Those pushing this amendment have had three years to collect the required number of petitions. That they met that goal literally at the final hour should send a clear message that Floridians feel the state has more important things to do than create another government intrusion into our private lives."
The question now puts Gov. Charlie Crist, the state's top Republican, in an awkward spot. He signed one of the petitions while running for governor in 2006 but has since backed away from the issue.
"I'm just a live and let live kind of guy," he recently told the St. Petersburg Times.
Crist has asked the Republican Party of Florida not to devote any more money to the cause, saying that weightier issues were at hand.
But Jim Greer, a Crist ally and head of the Republican Party, issued a statement saying the successful signature drive "illustrates the widespread support for the sanctity of marriage."
Florida4Marriage.org had raised more than $444,000 by the end of December, the latest report available. The main donors are the Republican Party of Florida ($300,000) and Florida Catholic Conference ($45,500). Hundreds of ordinary people gave between $1 and $50.
The Hometown Democracy initiative was launched by environmentalists seeking a greater say in local development decisions. It would require voter approval for changes to land-use plans.
Leslie Blackner, a Palm Beach lawyer involved in the effort, pledged Friday night to keep working.
"We'll be on the ballot for 2010," Blackner predicted.
Business groups view it as the No. 1 enemy and poured hundreds of thousands of dollars into several opposition groups.
The effort was also slowed by a signature revocation effort led by Save Our Constitution. Under a state law that went into effect Aug. 1, opponents have 150 days to contact petition signers and see if they want to change their mind.
Of the 564,558 signatures verified by the Secretary of State's Office, 18,731 were revoked, putting the group's bottom line at 545,827. Signatures are good for four years.
Tallahassee bureau chief Steve Bousquet contributed to this report.
Ballot language
The amendment would add a new section to Article I: "Inasmuch as marriage is the legal union of only one man and one woman as husband and wife, no other legal union that is treated as marriage or the substantial equivalent thereof shall be valid or recognized."
Web sites for both sides in the gay marriage debate:
-www.florida4marriage.org
-www.floridaredandblue.com
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by Marcos
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03/02/08 01:50 PM
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If you really want to protect the "sanctity of marriage," out law divorce and put that on the constitution. Then maybe heterosexuals will think a little before jumping into a marriage with someone they don't like and wont care what homosexuals do.
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by Catherine
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02/29/08 02:07 PM
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Women should be with MEN only. Men should be with women!!! For all the rest i think your freaks!!!
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by daniel
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02/11/08 06:20 AM
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VOTE NO ON AMENDMENT 2 ON NOVEMBER 4, 2008
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by Cindy
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02/09/08 09:21 AM
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It is not my place to judge anyone, I leave that to God & the GOD I know is a GOD of LOVE so I just run around Loving everyone.(or I try to) To Organized Religion: be careful your words do not offend my GOD with Hate, for you shall also be judged.
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by Dana
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02/08/08 10:55 PM
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And I suppose it's worked out just beautifully for the heterosexual marraiges? Why is it that the divorce rate is over 50%? If anything, at least same sex unions understand each other better anyway.
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by Jack
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02/08/08 09:01 PM
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Evangelicals should be feeding the poor; administering to the sick; loving and not judging thier brother rather than spreading hatred and intolerance. I'm proud of my 27 year, monagamous Gay relationship and deserving the basic rights under the law.
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by LM
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02/08/08 12:52 PM
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Teaching children to hate and to fear is much worse than exposing them to homosexuality. I too, am glad I'm not a closed minded bigot. Wait until they come for any rights that you hold dear. See who'll speak for you when that time comes.
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by John
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02/06/08 06:55 PM
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I am tired of special rights for hetrosexuals. I think we should ban any and all tax breaks and benefits for all these married folks. No tax breaks for the children either. Oh and no tax breaks for churches supporting the amendment!
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by Rick
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02/06/08 06:46 PM
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All I can say is: www.knowthyneighbor.org
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by James
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02/06/08 02:07 PM
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If marriage is the institution that binds two loving human beings together, and offers them rights, benefits, and protection under the US government, then there must and will be same sex marriage. It is not a matter of 'if' but 'when'.
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by Tony
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02/06/08 10:55 AM
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Saving the family is the objective??? Gays have attacked your family somehow? Do you know what homosexuals are? Do you understand that they are the same as all of us with the exception of their sexual orientation? If it confuses kids educate them.
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by Jim
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02/06/08 09:54 AM
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There are millions of loving monogomous homosexual couples in this country that would be the best thing that could happen to the institution of marriage. Stop bullying them. How dare you try to impose your religious beliefs on society .
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by Wyatt
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02/05/08 09:16 PM
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This is yet another attempt by the crazy religious right to try to ingrain their propaganda into our political structure. This amendment envelops our state with hate and bigotry, and serves no other purpose.
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by Lucio
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02/05/08 08:27 PM
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Take a look at this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IHdaJOZe7E
It's sad to see religion get in the way of common sense. Don't let religion be the enormity in your judgement.
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by Brandon
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02/05/08 09:53 AM
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Continued from above..... Isn't that what Jesus taught? Putting hate and bigotry aside; Why shouldn't my two dads be afforded the same basic human rights that my wife and I are?
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by Brandon
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02/05/08 09:51 AM
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As a child of two gay fathers whom have been together for more than 25 years - I can say I am greatful! They have shown me love and dedication. They have educated me and taught me basic right vs. wrong...... continued see below..
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by Jack
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02/04/08 05:01 PM
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Your bible thumping and bigoted beliefs have no place in making decisions that affect not one person of religious beliefs. Keep, your religious beliefs in your church and out of my government.
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by Sarina
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02/04/08 01:00 PM
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Saving the family is the objective. Divorce and many other things rampage through our families. Gay marriages are just another way to distort the traditional family unit. Common sense should tell us that one man and one woman are what start a family.
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by Bob
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02/04/08 11:51 AM
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Maybe we should put morality completely aside while we all satisify our selfish urges for unrestrained sex. Who is defining morality these days? Our government, that can't be trusted behind closed doors at the White House? We need to define morality!
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by Michael
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02/04/08 10:16 AM
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I must be dreaming.
Banning gay marriage seems more important than getting "REAL" tax reform!!!
No wonder we will never get tax reform,we are too busy trying to get the church to run the state.
Can't we see what religion is doing to the world?
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by Where?
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02/03/08 04:09 PM
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The sanctity of marriage. Well, I don't see a barring of atheists from marriage so religion can't be a reason. Besides, we don't make laws to respect one religion, right? Immoral? Same problem. So there's science to back up the failed experiment?
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by Paul
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02/03/08 03:42 PM
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I'm absolutely voting NO. Gay and straight couples are harmed by this amendment if it passes. Read the whole amendment. I'm so grateful to God I'm not a fundamentalist bigot!
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by Chari
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02/03/08 01:56 PM
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To all of you that love homosexuality, read Leviticus Chapter 18 in your true Word of God--THE BIBLE!! God hates the homosexual lifestyle in all forms, including same sex marriages! This is not discrimination! GET REAL!!!
Chari :)
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by Chari
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02/03/08 01:51 PM
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Thank God! Florida has finally gotten on the bandwagon to save marriages between one man and one woman--the way that God has intended for marriage to be in our lives. I WILL vote for this amendment!! No more confusion for the kids!
Chari :)
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by Zeke
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02/03/08 10:33 AM
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Stemberger claim he's speaking for God and the Bibles teachings. That it's God, not him, who says his gay children should be denied the same equal rights as his heterosexual children, hogwash! Separation of Church and State doesn't exist in Florida.
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by Jack
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02/03/08 10:06 AM
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Never thought I would see discrimination written into the constitution. Bigotry is alive and well.
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by Steve
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02/02/08 11:15 PM
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A pointless and senseless piece of legislation. To add discrimination into a state constitution is a travesty for the civil rights of all. The campaign for this amendment will show humanity at its worst under a mask of rightousness.
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by Man of God
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02/02/08 06:37 PM
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Questions??? Just refer to the bible! But make sure that hate does not accompany your decision. Think about it...
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by john
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02/02/08 02:38 PM
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Wow! Having two persons of the same sex marry would be calamitous! It will bring down the State! It will cause all manner of bloodshed and mahem! Why don't the do-gooders spend their time on something important, like education. This state needs it.
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by john
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02/02/08 02:29 PM
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i am grateful to the hard work that went into getting this initiative on the ballot. Live and Let Live. Live and let inappropriate moral conditions raise our children. No thanks.
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by Rodger
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02/02/08 01:53 PM
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When will they get it right? It's Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve!
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by Steve
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02/02/08 01:43 PM
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Great news! I believe Floridians should have a vote on this important issue! Let's pray it passes!
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by John
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02/02/08 01:40 PM
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Great news. I will vote for this!
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by David
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02/02/08 01:14 PM
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The RIGHTS of the minority are not subject to the WHIMS of the majority
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by Adam
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02/02/08 12:07 PM
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Stemberger says gay unions are untested social experiments; obviously this guy doesnò019t know his history. Same-sex unions have been part of cultures throughout history. Arguments like his are only based in hate & ignorance.
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