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Strip club surcharge would aid elderly
Two bay area legislators want $1 a visit to go to nursing home residents.
By ALEX LEARY, Times Staff Writer
Published February 7, 2008
TALLAHASSEE - Two Tampa Bay area lawmakers want to put a $1 tax on strip club admissions so they can give low-income nursing home residents more spending money.
Rep. Rick Kriseman, D-St. Petersburg, said he got the idea after an elderly constituent complained that a $35 monthly stipend for Medicaid recipients was not enough to cover personal needs, such as haircuts, clothing and movie tickets.
"I'm sorry if I've taken a dollar that you would have otherwise stuck in someone's garter," said Kriseman, who is sponsoring the legislation with Sen. Ronda Storms, R-Brandon.
The adult entertainment industry says it will fight the bill, which aims to increase the Medicaid allowance to $70 a month.
"Everyone I mention it to has one word for it: stupid," scoffed Joe Redner, owner of the Mons Venus in Tampa, which carries a $20 cover charge.
"It's a noble cause. Old people should have some money," Redner added. "But they should get it from everybody, not just us."
The Florida Sunshine Entertainment Association, a newly formed trade group, sent out an e-mail warning about the legislation.
Constitutional law experts offer mixed opinions. "Singling out strip clubs to bear the burden of an unrelated social program appears arbitrary and capricious," said Jonathan Turley, a professor at George Washington University.
"In the end," he said, "they will spend more money in litigation than they'll ever get from these fees."
But University of Florida law professor Joe Little thinks the tax would pass muster because the Legislature has the ability to create revenue streams and devote that money to certain causes.
A legal squabble might not even matter. Republicans, who control both chambers of the Legislature, have a strong aversion to new taxes, so the bill's chances of passing are slim.
The original bill sought to extend sales taxes to strip club admissions, but Render insisted that already happens, laughing at Kriseman's apparent flub.
The Department of Revenue confirmed strip clubs already are subject to sales tax. The Times then contacted Kriseman's office and, after some scrambling, the idea for a $1 surcharge was developed on Wednesday.
Texas this year imposed a $5 tax on strip club customers, with the estimated $40-million a year going to help rape victims. But the law is being challenged in court.
Owners say it infringes on First Amendment rights to free expression and say the inference to sex crimes is unfair.
Little thinks the First Amendment issue could be used in Florida, if the bill became law.
"If someone can make a credible argument - and I'm not sure they can - that puts this in a different posture," he said.
The 77-year-old St. Petersburg woman whose situation prompted the bill thinks it's a great idea.
"If people can afford to go to these places," Cecelia Baci said, "they can afford to pay a little more for us."
[Last modified February 6, 2008, 23:50:53]
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by Kate
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02/14/08 08:38 PM
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o matter how hard times may be,many of have the money for manicures, strip clubs and other pleasures above and beyond food, clothing and sheltar at the most minimum survival level. A little generosity wouldn't hurt.
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by John
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02/08/08 04:59 PM
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This just shows what a real hypocrite Storms really is. She is always the one calling for closing strip clubs. Now she is looking for a handout from the very places she has tried to close. Storms really needs to go away.
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by George
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02/08/08 01:46 PM
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Strip clubs are a CASH business. Do lawmakers really think that the owner are going to give $1 from all admissions ? They've got to be kidding !
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by Iceman
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02/08/08 11:10 AM
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The bill is co-sposored in the Senate By a REPUBLICAN! i thought they were for lower taxes and less gov. regulation on businesses
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by Robert
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02/08/08 06:49 AM
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Here we go again. Another step towards a socialist America.
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by Ryan
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02/07/08 10:34 PM
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This is just another hand out for a particular interest group. And if the article is correct, when was the last time "movie tickets" were lumped into "personal needs"? The entire social safety net system is up a creek.
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by Scott
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02/07/08 09:45 PM
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Terrific. Now, because some persons failed to plan for themselves financially, anyone who would enjoy an evening of a certain type of entertainment has to subsidize those persons. I say make them show up to collect it in person. Orwellian, comrade.
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by JJ
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02/07/08 06:08 PM
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Not to sound like a heartless you-know-what, but why didn't these old people SAVE MONEY for their future??? And now WE'RE helping because you can't plan and think ahead past the next episode of Matlock????!!! Ridiculous.
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by Jim
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02/07/08 06:04 PM
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Ahhh the Democrats answer to everything. Tax, Tax Tax.
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by Bill
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02/07/08 04:56 PM
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What a ridiculous idea....Storms and Kriseman should be removed from office...how about coming up with a real solution, instead of this stupid waste of time and taxpayers money..maybe we should tax churchgoers instead..that would generate more money
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by P
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02/07/08 04:12 PM
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That is the governments answer "take money from the tax payers and give it to the elderly - for spending money". It is bad enough they take a significant portion of my paycheck for social security. A benefit that will be gone when I retire.
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by Mike
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02/07/08 03:16 PM
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Republicans want to tax private business to pay for a public need? My how the times have changed. Maybe the next time she has "personal needs, such as haircuts, clothing and movie tickets. " she can toss in a buck for some kids college tuition.
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by DP
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02/07/08 02:48 PM
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Now (for only a buck), I can morally justify going to the nudie bar, awesome.
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by john
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02/07/08 02:06 PM
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Harold, don't you know that is what the upcoming election for President is all about. Who can give the better handout. Universal medical. All these great programs with no one to pay the bill but you and I.
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by wow
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02/07/08 10:30 AM
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whats next
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by Len
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02/07/08 09:59 AM
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Take money from one business sector's clientele to give to another needy niche group? Forget which niche group or business sector. Where do you draw the line? Stay out of my wallet Rick. You and your legislative friends are already in it too deep!
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by Dr_Dug
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02/07/08 09:41 AM
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Here's a Novel idea. Quit giving it to the illegals and give it to feed and help our own elderly! There's plenty of money to use..they just don't use it right! Or, how about a salary cut for Senators,Congressmen and Lawyers and give to the elderly.
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by paul
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02/07/08 08:54 AM
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I personally do not like strip clubs and yes I'm a straight married male who does like to party and have fun. But you can't tax them more than other entertainment business's just because you don't approve on what they do .
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by John
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02/07/08 08:33 AM
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It's a great idea, but completely illogical. Singling out a specific entertinment industry to help with completely unrelated social issues is wrong. Strip clubs may create more crime, but they don't increase grooming costs. It's an emotional argument
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by Harold
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02/07/08 06:40 AM
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Why would a 77 year-old woman think the taxpayer owes her anything. Has she always gotten something for nothing? Too many people expect a handout and to be taken care of by taxpayers. People are expected to save for the golden years....hah
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