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Nursing mom asked to stop
A teacher and principal request no breast-feeding at school; the law's on mom's side.
By Katherine Snow Smith, Times Correspondent
Published February 17, 2008
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[Martha Rial | Times]
Alicia Norris, shown with her son Tahoma at their St. Petersburg home, says a school of all places should be family-friendly. She was asked not to breast-feed Tahoma while visiting her daughter during lunchtime at Rio Vista Elementary School.
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Alicia Norris was enjoying lunch with her daughter while visiting her at Rio Vista Elementary School, and thought nothing of the fact that she was nursing her 19-month-old son Tahoma while sitting at a picnic table outside. That is, until a teacher approached her and told her she could not breast-feed her baby on school property. "Most people don't even notice that you're nursing. There were other children walking by on the sidewalk and nobody even looked at me. There was no gawking or anything," said Norris, who has two children attending Rio Vista Elementary School. "I have never been asked to stop," she said. "I think this shows a lack of education in an educational environment." She told the teacher she did not care to discuss it in front of her older child, and continued. Later the same day, she said, school principal Wayne Whitney approached - she was not nursing at the time - and again asked her not to breast-feed at the school. As Norris sees it, a school of all places should be family-friendly and this one seemed anything but. "I felt degraded," she said of the Oct. 29 incident. "I've been nursing three children for nine years and I've never felt like that before." Florida law states that women can breast-feed anywhere in public or private as long as they are in that place legally. "I do hear about incidents like this quite a bit," said Heidi Buck, a local leader of La Leche League, a support group for nursing mothers. "I don't think it happens as much as it used to but it's still not uncommon. It goes back to the old way of thinking that breasts are sexual things. "But breast-feeding is not a sexual thing. It's a natural means of feeding and nurturing your child." Norris fired off a letter to Pinellas County school superintendent Clayton Wilcox, citing the Florida law. The statute states: "A mother may breast-feed her baby in any location, public or private, where the mother is otherwise authorized to be, irrespective of whether the nipple of the mother's breast is uncovered during or incidental to the breast-feeding." Principal Whitney later looked into Florida law on breast-feeding, and found he was off-base, said Pinellas School Board spokeswoman Andrea Zahn. He has since told staff members that breast-feeding is allowed at school. "We don't have a specific School Board policy but we certainly conform to the state statutes," she added. "A couple teachers expressed their concerns," said Whitney. "I asked her not to do it in front of small children." Norris said she has been back to Rio Vista and nursed her son about four times since the incident, but has chosen to do so at a more secluded table behind the kindergarten playground. "I feel very uncomfortable around the principal and the other teacher who approached me," she said. "I felt like they were looking at me like I was doing something wrong or dirty." Norris said she just wants to make sure people at the school and elsewhere know the rules. "I don't need an apology," she said. She said Whitney has since called to acknowledge that she could breast-feed on the campus. "It would just be nice if they could say we were mistaken and we hope you don't feel uncomfortable here," she said. "I'm not going to let somebody tell me that I'm not going to feed my baby."
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by Carina
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03/02/08 01:46 AM
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Yes, I have and I would nurse in a congregation; Jesus was breastfed. All around the world women nurse during services, it's just the U.S. that seems to have an issue with it.
What a ridiculous ordeal this woman went through. SHAME on the school.
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by Wonderer
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02/26/08 07:15 PM
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A question: Would you breast-feed during a sermon at church in the middle of the congregation without covering up?
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by amy
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02/23/08 05:04 PM
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I had similar episode with a parent at my daughters Sandy Ln grad I left crying the lady pointed me out and I was a back corner. The office lady was undrstndg. Copy of this article to the pricipals will help, but there will be someone to shun you.
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by Kathleen
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02/23/08 11:59 AM
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I never knew that so many people are still against nursing. Who are you to say what age? It hurts to know we are still so far behind on this. I have been blessed with two daughter in laws which nurse. I am glad my sons found open minded wives.
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by Really?
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02/22/08 05:36 PM
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Melissa: Dogs and cats also lick their crotches in public, not to mention their bathroom habits. Bad analogy. Again, natural not the issue. It's a question of one mom's right to nurse in public trumping rights of the majority, i.e. other parents.
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by Another mom with rights
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02/22/08 07:07 AM
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The value and naturalness of breast feeding is not in question! The question is whether or not this woman has the right to choose what other parents' kids are exposed to in school.
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by Melissa
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02/21/08 08:16 PM
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WOW! After reading all the comments most of you are PRUDES! Nobody says anything if a cat or dog is nursing it's babies because it's a natural thing! A baby will tell you when it's ready to wean not the mom telling the baby.
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by Lizzy
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02/21/08 04:52 PM
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That child knows something other than breast milk! He eats a McDonald's Happy Meal prior to breast feeding. Food for thought, y'all.
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by Mamidedos
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02/21/08 02:14 PM
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I guess after 9 or 10 months breastmilk just turns to soda pop.
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by Heather
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02/21/08 10:29 AM
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Part 2 No, you don't have to hide when eating no matter how old or fat you are... so neither does that cute baby who knows nothing but a breast for a meal. Stop thinking of yourselves and let the child eat!
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by Hallie
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02/21/08 09:18 AM
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I'm with you Rocky! First, there is nothing abnormal about a child that age nursing. Its not always about eatings either, many children, infants included, gain comfort from nursing. An
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by Rocky
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02/19/08 08:53 AM
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If you are so "offended" by the sight of a breast, then you'd better not let your kids watch tv or look at what people are wearing in public. God forbid children might see a breast used for its actual purpose!!
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by Carolyn
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02/18/08 10:27 PM
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It concerns me how uninformed most of the comments are. The American
Academy of Pediatrics states ALL children should be breastfed for AT least the first year, and longer is better. WHO says 5 years. The bias regarding BP is nothing but ignorancs.
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by Jeri
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02/18/08 08:13 PM
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The subject is breastfeeding openly in public, not it's benefits! Personally, I think a Mother can respect others by covering during breastfeedings. No one is saying you can't, should or shouldn't breastfeed, but to use decretion when doing so. COVER
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by 44 DD
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02/18/08 06:25 PM
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I say it's time to NIP this in the bud.
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by Rob
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02/18/08 04:43 PM
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to all you inconsiderate prople, for saying she needs to cover up or go hide in private somewhere to feed her child. why don't you go eat in seclusion or under a blanket. wake up people its not the 50's any more. and anyways it's just skin.
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by Barbara
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02/18/08 02:15 PM
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Grow up people. It's only breastfeeding! It doesn't last forever and a breast is really not that exposed unless you're right there staring at it! I think that principal owes this Mom a huge apology!
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by Virginia - Certified Lactation Counselor
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02/18/08 12:44 PM
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Em, You are GROSSLY misinformed. Breast milk is living and provides immunity/mental development benefits. The WHO suggests babies nurse for 2 yrs at least. You shouldn't state your opinions in such a factual manor. See kellymom.com for more info
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by Dawn
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02/18/08 10:55 AM
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It's not like he's an infant that HAS to be fed on a regular schedule, why can't she feed him BEFORE she goes out in public?
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by EM
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02/18/08 10:22 AM
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Alicia Norris said of the Oct. 29 incident. "I've been nursing three children for nine years
-- Um - Ewww -- I am a HUGE advocate of breast feeding but over 1 year has no nutritional benefit for the child. More of a mommy won't let go thing.
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by Terri
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02/18/08 09:05 AM
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I breastfed my children, but I am concerned as to the age of the child being 19 months. I have heard that normally breastfeeding ends at the age of 9 or 10 months while this child is almost 2 years old, there is something not right with this picture
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by Heather
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02/18/08 08:34 AM
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I think if the child were an infant - less than six months old - it might be okay to breastfeed on school property. However, this kid is too old and I think would give any observing kids an education in subjects they don't need to know about yet.
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by Lyn
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02/18/08 08:20 AM
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First off, he's too old to be breast feeding. Second, you could use a light blanket to cover yourself, if you MUST breastfeed. Third, many children are nto and have not been exposed to this action, I myself would be uncomfortable. Breastfeed covered!
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by Nick
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02/18/08 08:01 AM
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Urinating is natural, too, yet you wouldn't do that openly in a schoolyard. This 'natural' argument is null and void; some things should simply be kept private. Until beach-goers may bare their breasts, open public breast-feeding should be banned.
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by Theres
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02/18/08 08:00 AM
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Mom should either have feed her little boy before or after her visit to the school.Surely she could have give him somthing else to eat.Mom you were only thinking of yourself.Breast feeding should a quiet setting. Not during a school lunch time.
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by MARIE
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02/18/08 07:52 AM
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This child is much too old to be nursing..surprised she wasn't nursing her other children during recess!!nurse the others while they
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by Mike
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02/18/08 07:08 AM
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Wow! What a bunch of uninformed morons respond to your articles. I'm sure you won't print this while you print those "fonts" of wisdom below!
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by A Nursing Momma
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02/18/08 06:55 AM
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Actually, the World Health Organization recommends that children are nursed up to the age of five. I nursed mine until two-and-a-half. And as far as covering up with a blanket? I don't eat under a blanket; why should my child?
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by Utterly uncalled for
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02/17/08 11:25 PM
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She's so uncomfortable there that she has done it 4 times since. Just because she can doesn't mean she should. By 'family friendly' she means HER FAMILY. My son attends Rio and I'm offended by her lack of care for MY family. She should home school.
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by Concerned
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02/17/08 11:15 PM
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I support the principal and his request that she not do it in front of small children. I am sure that when the law was crafted it was assumed that the mother would not choose to breastfeed in front of elementary students.Why rehash this now?
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by Mom of 1
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02/17/08 10:02 PM
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re: mals comment: Nursing a 1 year old does not mean that child isn't also eating solid food and drinking other drinks (water, juice) out of a sippy cup. I stopped nursing at 6 months, but know plenty that still do over 1 year old and are thriving.
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by carol
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02/17/08 09:46 PM
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I sent in a message earlier but I suppose St. Pete's times didn't think it was worthy of printing. The kid is almost two years old, he should be drinking out of a cup and not be nursing. Some fanatics carry breast feeding way too far.
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by bird
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02/17/08 08:57 PM
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I totally agree with Mom of 3. Certainly some modesty is appropriate.
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by Tom
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02/17/08 08:17 PM
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anymore................
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by Joy
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02/17/08 06:37 PM
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The American Academy of Pediatrics recommends breastfeeding for a *minimum* (not maximum)of one year and the World Health Organization recommends breastfeeding for a *minimum* of two years. Just because it is not the norm here doesn't make it wrong.
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