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So many needs, and Bucs do this?
They desperately need a wide receiver. They could use another cornerback. It wouldn't hurt them to have another running back or another tight end or another defensive end.
By Gary Shelton, Times Columnist
Published March 4, 2008
They desperately need a wide receiver. They could use another cornerback. It wouldn't hurt them to have another running back or another tight end or another defensive end.
And so the Bucs obtained another quarterback Monday.
Of course they did.
Well, gotcha! In their latest misdirection play, the Bucs have traded away a 2009 draft pick to bring Brian Griese back to town. Another quarterback sneak, you might say. If you saw this coming, frankly, you were looking in the wrong place.
Recommended reaction to this trade: "Huh?"
Recommended follow-up: "Why?"
As it turns out, we were all wrong about the Bucs. What they were missing last year was not speed or explosiveness or toughness over the middle. What they were missing was another backup quarterback. Who knew?
Let's be honest. We should have had an inkling. No matter how questionable the offense is, with Gruden the answer is often, "Get me another quarterback." Some people collect coins, and some collect stamps, and some collect interest.
As for Gruden, he collects quarterbacks.
As for the rest of us, we collect conversations that begin with, "What in the world is Gruden going to do with all of those quarterbacks?"
Yes, Jeff Garcia is still the starter. Let's don't talk crazy. The biggest difference in the awful season of 2006 and the playoff season of 2007 was Garcia. If Garcia is standing, he's starting.
After that, it's Griese. Say what you want about Luke McCown, who had his moments last year, but a team doesn't trade for a veteran quarterback to be the third quarterback.
Gruden loved Griese when he was with Tampa Bay. To a coach, a smart quarterback is a safe quarterback. Once, Gruden was asked how long he would like to have Griese play for him. "How about infinity?" Gruden said.
After that, it gets murky. There is McCown, there is Bruce Gradkowski, and, for the time being, there is Chris Simms. You might want to check back about that last name.
Does this trade mean the end for Simms as a Buc? It's hard to interpret it any other way. Simms is a likeable kid, but he has a large contract, and he hasn't won a game in a very long time. It's easier to imagine Jake Plummer on the roster than Simms.
Aha. Perhaps that is what the Bucs are going to do for a big-play receiver. They're going to tell Simms to go long!
In a way, this move fits perfectly, because it has been a muddled, mystifying offseason so far. Given how badly the Bucs need to jump-start their offense, given how much money they had to spend, you might have expected them to do a little shopping in free agency. So far, they have not.
On the other hand, wait until you see Jeff Faine in the open field.
Just kidding, of course. If the Bucs are right about Faine -- and they have seen him twice a year - then bolstering the offensive line is a swell idea. Still, wouldn't you have liked to have seen a few more touchdown scorers by now?
Which brings us to this: More than ever, the Bucs need a differencemaker among their receivers.
Which also brings us to this: No, I wouldn't have paid the contracts given to the members of this year's gaggle, either.
First things first: When it comes to the Bucs spending their money, everyone is all for it. I still haven't figured out why they didn't spent more last year. And who doesn't want a few more fireworks on offense?
And, yet, it is hard not to shake your head at some of these contracts. The Vikings gave $42-million($16-million of it guaranteed) to Bernard Berrian? The same Berrian the Bears would not franchise? The Browns gave $35-million to Donte Stallworth? The same Stallworth who keeps bouncing from team to team? The Jaguars gave $30-million to Jerry Porter? The same Porter who has driven coaches crazy?
Put it this way: The Bucs need more help than Berrian or Stallworth or Porter.
So who does that leave? Javon Walker, perhaps. If his knee is healthy, Walker could be worth the trouble. If the Cardinals want to trade Larry Fitzgerald(and if his outsized contract could be restructured), the Bucs should listen. Otherwise, they might be looking at the draft.
Remember this: When the Patriots were looking for receivers last year, they signed two in free agency and traded for two. The two in free agency were Stallworth and Kelley Washington (who combined for 46 receptions). The two they traded for were Randy Moss and Wes Welker (who combined for 210). In other words, it's easier to trade for an impact player than find one that somebody else threw away.
Besides, if the Bucs don't end up with a receiver, there is always hope.
Maybe McCown is willing to catch the ball across the middle.
[Last modified March 3, 2008, 23:17:47]
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by King 2
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03/11/08 02:49 PM
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Many of you are as confused an Gruden. All the quarterbacks the bucs have now need is TIME! What we need is a standout receiver that gets open! A tight end that can block and consistant line play on offense.
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by chaz
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03/11/08 12:13 PM
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how we forget how great Griese was when he was here. they will find a reciever. oakland had Moss and they sucked. you need a complete team. we wont have that many QB's. Simms will be traded for a WR or higher draft pick for a WR so calm down.
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by chaz
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03/11/08 12:04 PM
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look most of the comments here are posted by IDIOTS. If any of you knew what you are talking about you would be working in the NFL. Everyone complained about getting rid of Griese and now because we have him back. just shut up
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by Gali
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03/11/08 11:25 AM
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Take best WR or CB on first round, but the key is moving to get Laws from Notre Dame in the 2nd. Everyone forgets this is a one gap defense. There is no natural 3 technique on the team. Simms and 2nd round pick move us up the 2nd round to pick Laws.
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by Al
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03/11/08 07:34 AM
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Bucs Trade Luke Petitgout,Chris Simms,and Michael Clayton...To the Jets for Laveranues Coles,Chad Pennington, and Dewayne Robertson. Then they Draft CB-Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie,DT-Trevor Laws,WR-Eddie Royal, and WR Harry Douglas...Perfection!!!!!!
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by Davis
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03/10/08 08:02 AM
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Well maybe with the number one overall pick next year we can get a stud WR!
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by Kevin
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03/10/08 07:48 AM
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Gruden knows what he's doin,he came in his first year and put enough points on the board to make TB Champs!Dungy was a chump,trade n put chad johnson across from joey galloway and watch the wins pile up,Garcia needs more weapons,those feet slowindown
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by Kevin
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03/10/08 07:23 AM
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All these people are complaining abut pickin up Griese, i went to the washington game, the 1 where Garcia got hurt on the first drive, we do nothing through the air the rest of the game, Griese was a solid pick up with a starter like Garcia
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by Lennie
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03/09/08 09:40 PM
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I think the bucs should do will this up coming season. they need a speeded receiver and a blanket covering corner back.
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by robert
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03/09/08 04:02 PM
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griese for a 6th round pick, wow, what a steal,the free agent pool this year, outside of moss, way overpriced, good move with faine and troup, these two guys are way underrated at their position
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by Kasra
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03/09/08 01:50 AM
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Wow. i want playmakers too, but the fans posting here are just depressing. Griese is a safety-blanket of a move, and free-agent talent is being way over-paid. let me put it in a way you might understand: bucs iS Not sux cuz he DoeZnt kill cAp!!!>!?
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by JB
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03/08/08 06:05 PM
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Griese, as an experienced QB is a good aquisition here! Like others have stated, he could be a low risk replacement should garcia get injured again, but more importantly he is a decent QB in a QB POOR league right now. Can you say TRADE FODDER?
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by Mike
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03/08/08 02:25 PM
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I haven't read comments from so many uneducated fans in a long time. The free agent market sucked and the draft is loaded. Simms and Gradkowski are gone and we are in great shape as a team. Go bucs
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by Algenis
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03/08/08 12:26 PM
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$44 million dollars to spend?And you sign a bunch of unaccomplished defensice players and give a draft pick for QB #6? and your're talking to Warren Dunn and raise also raise ticket prices? I Hope you have a plan Mr.Glazer
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by Daniel
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03/08/08 04:06 AM
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I know why Grudden have all these QB's. He want to make sure that all the QB's are healthy when we kick about 50 field goal a game
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by brad
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03/07/08 07:41 PM
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you guys r right we ned to run the ball more we cant just throw to galloway all the time gruden need to be smart or fire him please this shouyld be out year GO BUCS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by Herb
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03/07/08 05:41 PM
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I'm not understanding,Why all these damn QB's?...We need some playmakers on offense, WR's,RB's?...come on Grudden!
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by George
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03/07/08 04:23 PM
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Why don't the fans that follow the bucs like I do.A lot of teams don't let these players ever get to Tampa. I think bringing Griese is great. He is a veteran and he knows the system.There is some veterans out there that will sign here, and Draft!
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by bogie
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03/07/08 12:48 PM
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prove us wrong gruden,you have not made one quality free agent signing,what a damn joke, the falcons will win the south now. your loading up on qbs.are gonna draft mendenhall from illinois i hope gruden has a plan.
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by Moe
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03/07/08 07:35 AM
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Hey Gary, Simms is the only QB on this team that can throw the ball 70 yards and the Shot Gun formation improves him over Griese, Garcia or McCown. Garcia needs to call it quits loke Farve did. Griese is the Backup and Mccown remains our 3rd string.
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by stu
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03/07/08 03:05 AM
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Think it was a great trade.Rare cases a six/R.comes out to be success, but rare.Xperince worth it not to mention Griese was 5-1 leadn NFC n qb ratn b4 he went down.Pikd up speed in b.field with Dunn whosn't done. Wr's comn soon through trade/drft.
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by Brian
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03/06/08 09:18 PM
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Face it Gruden and Allen are idiots....Im betting they take another Offensive Lineman with there forst 2 picsk in the draft and then take a kicker in the 3rd round...followed by some more chump picks...before drafting a WR in the 7th..FIRE GRUDEN!!!!
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by Trevor
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03/06/08 04:12 PM
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I think the Buc's should trade Simm's for a big time receiver.
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by Josh
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03/06/08 03:08 PM
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Can anyone say OCHO CINCO!!!!!!!!! He wants out of Cinci and he'd like great in pewter!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We need help on the outside and this would free up Joey to do his thing down the field...
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by david fuller
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03/06/08 11:30 AM
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no why in the hell did we not go and get a wide out.this is so ridiculis.ive been a fan since the doug williams days,shit what the heck are we goinig to do with the money we got under the cap we wanna win now gruden,get it together.
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by Kyle
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03/06/08 12:34 AM
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I think that this years FA market was terrible, although I wish the Bucs would have tried to get Javon Walker. Hopefully Allen does something in the draft I just hope we don't get another receiver that is a bust like Micheal Clayton. GO BUCS
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by by raul
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03/06/08 12:13 AM
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get a reciever joey and ike are getting old trade a sims or gradkowski
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by Harold
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03/06/08 12:05 AM
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Watch and learn how teams like Dallas rebuilt and how New England and Pittsburg continue to stay good. Gruden and Allen showed what happens after they leave teams in 4-5 years, just look at Oakland.
Is Doug Flutie available?
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by Fernando
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03/05/08 09:37 PM
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Great article.But I agree with the fact that the ridiculous $$$$$$ paid to these unproven free agents makes you wonder. I think a trade is in the works. We will see.
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by Nathan
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03/05/08 09:04 PM
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People are acting like we gave up a lot to get Griese back. A low pick at best. Do people think he's getting guaranteed money? This is a win-win. He sucks at camp, we cut him end of story. He is better than all the QB's than Garcia. GOOD MOVE!
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by Andrew
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03/05/08 07:55 PM
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Griese is a good veteran QB that can teach McCown how to flourish in the Gruden system. Also if Garcia takes a dive, which happens alot with his playing style, theyre will be abother vet QB to help the team. Also, he would be good trading material.
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by Danny
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03/05/08 04:43 PM
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I think the owners are doing the right thing and analysing the market. The FA's are awful this season on offense so why not re-stock through the draft, and go for the biggy next season!!
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by Nick
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03/05/08 03:28 PM
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This years draft class is full of talented WR's, and that is exactly where are 1st round pick should go. But McCown did not play bad at all when he was in the game, besides a few times he should have thrown the ball away. We did not need Greise.
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by martin
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03/05/08 01:43 PM
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Griese flourished in Gruden's system until that cheap shot ruined his knee against Miami. We never should have let him go. This FA class is pedestrian...no use ruining your cap space just because you feel obligated to spend. Hope for a good draft.
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by Drs
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03/05/08 01:36 PM
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Did everyone forget the sense of panic we all had about playing Garcia at the end of last season? Imagine if we had Griese then, maybe we would have gotten the momentum everyone whined about here. The fork sticking out of Sim Rice tells us he's done
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