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Red light cameras? Yes, with two rules
By Howard Troxler
Published March 4, 2008
Your light turns green, and you're about to pull out into the intersection - only to see somebody barreling from the left or right at full speed. You put on your brakes just in time for him to blow through their red light. You don't know whether to be grateful for not getting killed, or mad at the idiot who almost just killed you. Red light abuse is increasingly common and deadly. It seems to be especially bad here in Florida, where many folks learned their driving skills somewhere else - and forgot to pack them. The result, as my colleague Mike Brassfield reported in Monday's paper, is that a number of communities in Florida are considering red-light cameras to catch violators. Our Legislature is considering a law to permit their broader use, and a $125 fine. This trend toward using red light cameras raises three questions: (1) Are they trustworthy and worth it? (2) Is there a motive on the part of the company to drive up citations? (3) Is there a motive on the part of the government to drive up citations? My answers are (1) yes, (2) yes and (3) yes. So even if it's a good idea overall, any state law or local ordinance that expands the use of red light cameras ought to deal with these concerns. A typical system takes an "A shot" of a car the instant before it enters an intersection, showing whether the light has turned red. An instant later, the "B shot" shows the car in the intersection and the status of the light. It is hard to argue with such good evidence. Lots of drivers who insisted "it was still yellow" realize their guilt once they see it. (If you get a citation, you also get a link to a Web site where you can watch your own video.) The proposed state law includes exceptions, for example, being in a funeral procession, waiting for traffic to clear to make a left turn, or obeying a traffic-control officer. You can appeal, but if your only argument is, "The camera was wrong," you'll lose. If somebody else was driving your car, say, your kid, or someone who borrowed your car, then you can get off the hook - if you swear to an affidavit that names the driver. In the 300-plus U.S. communities using cameras, there are two main methods of paying the vendor: a flat rental rate, or a certain amount for each violation. But in the pay-per-ticket deal, the more citizens who get cited, the more money that flows to the company. And in either case, the more violations, the more money the government raises. So here are two modest proposals. Florida's law should require all such contracts to be on a flat-rate basis, and the money collected by the government should not be treated as general revenue that can be spent on anything. The company should be capable of calculating its flat rates according to how much work it expects to handle. As for the government, the money should stay within law enforcement, and any "profit" after expenses should go into a trust fund for further public safety, instead of a general government piggy bank. Camera systems have driven down violations in some communities and made the streets safer. They are a modern tool that helps law enforcement and frees its resources for better uses. With these safeguards against abuse by either the private or public sectors, they are worth having. Without them - no.
[Last modified March 4, 2008, 00:10:00]
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by jan
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03/05/08 04:57 AM
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I don't think red-light cameras have any effect on safety, just revenue. They should look at other solutions first. I agree with some of the others that say a longer amber light would help. Studies on the safety effect of lengthening amber lights?
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by Ron
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03/05/08 04:03 AM
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Excellent proposals. Bottom line: Protecting the public (innocent law-abiding drivers and pedestrians) must take precedence over those who claim that their right to privacy is being invaded.
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by fred
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03/04/08 05:39 PM
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Can you say Lottery part 2? Government bean counters will soon estimate revenue from cameras then reduce funding to law enforcement by that amount. Revenue from the cameras will fall off leaving law enforcement in the hole. Ask the teachers.
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by Jack
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03/04/08 05:32 PM
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I would like to see cameras in road construction work zones, and have FHP issue citations to speeders cought on camera.
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by dee
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03/04/08 02:00 PM
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BIG BROTHER!!!
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by Paul
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03/04/08 01:29 PM
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I have noticed drivers get worse and worse over the past few years here in St Pete. No one used to run red lights. I see it ALL the time now. In Tampa, its even worse. They have multiple cars running the redlights in packs.
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by Henry
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03/04/08 12:14 PM
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Howard's column is okay except that red light cameras do not enhance safety. Studies have shown mixed results with many areas reporting more injuries. Increasing amber light time reduces violations. This should be tried first.
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by 727guy
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03/04/08 10:28 AM
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I'd disagree on the 'trustworthy' part, too - they do make mistakes, and there is a large amount of inconvenience involved for someone whos car is incorrectly flagged, or someone guesses at a tag thats blurred. Contesting tix online would be a must..
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by 727guy
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03/04/08 10:18 AM
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Personally, I would also like to see a study that shows that there is no other solution than red light cameras. Have any other steps even been tried? Have any studys been performed? Where is the hard data that shows how big a problem this really is?
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by 727guy
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03/04/08 10:17 AM
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I agree that they are useful, but I personally believe that if the state thinks they're valuable, they should pay for the system themselves and use the revenue to pay for it. Giving it to a co. with a profit motive is a recipe for disaster.
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by kevin
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03/04/08 10:04 AM
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With the technology available a continuous recording needs to me made to back up the stills just in case some stops in front of you after the light turns red. Too hard to prove innocence without the whole story and lawyers cost alot.
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by HCB
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03/04/08 09:26 AM
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How can the company increase citations to increase income? Gotta have a violator to have a citation. And - why a trust fund? Put the money in the same place ticket money has always gone. It's a robo cop - that's all. He's always there.
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by joef
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03/04/08 08:29 AM
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This "stop and go right" mentality, just adds to the problem and disrespect for the traffic light laws. It should be, if it's red, you can't go!
Besides the fine, the violator should loose points off his license, too.
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by Shan
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03/04/08 08:16 AM
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Will the cameras show if another driver blew the red light after you did, indicating that this person was speeding behind you and forcing you to either run the red or risk getting rear-ended???
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by Chris
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03/04/08 08:10 AM
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I am against cameras in principle but there are so many idiot drivers here that I say they're needed. Something has got to change.
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by Robert
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03/04/08 07:12 AM
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What happened to innocent until proven guilty? Why are people being asked to prove they were NOT driving the car? Shouldn't the government still have to prove the owner was driving before they send him or her a citation?
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by jimmy
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03/04/08 06:26 AM
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Red light offenses cause accidents of horrendous force, often leading to terrible pain and suffering. A society of people who depend on cars for transportation has to be vigilant about punishing red light offenders.
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