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Abortion foes peddle ideology
A Times Editorial
Published March 6, 2008
The very difficult decision over whether to continue a pregnancy or choose an abortion is supposed to be a private one between a woman and her doctor. But extreme antiabortion ideologues in the Florida Legislature continually try to elbow in, and this year is no exception. Sen. Daniel Webster, the Republican majority leader, has introduced a bill, SB 2400, to require that women get an ultrasound before having an abortion. There is no medically valid reason for this added step. Doctors already perform ultrasounds when medically appropriate. But the measure is being pushed by Webster and other abortion foes to make the procedure more costly and burdensome for women. And this is not the worst of the measures. A companion bill in the House, HB 257, sponsored by Rep. Trey Traviesa, R-Tampa, is even worse. Beyond the ultrasound requirement, the bill would create a 24-hour waiting period that would disadvantage those low-income, working women who would have to forfeit two days of work in order to take care of their health needs. Traviesa's bill would also make it harder for minors to get the permission of a judge to obtain an abortion without parental notice. There are plenty of reasons that a minor might not want to inform a parent about the need for an abortion, not the least of which is a potentially violent response. But Traviesa's bill would make the process far more challenging. Perhaps the greatest irony in Traviesa's bill are the proposals to expand the ability of abortion patients to sue. Some of the same Republican lawmakers who have worked to shield doctors from lawsuits and large damage awards would now exclude abortion doctors. Any misstep in informing patients about their rights (and the legislation details a long list of such rights that have to be read orally) would put abortion providers at risk of a lawsuit. And the bill would remove the statutory limits on medical malpractice awards when abortions are performed. The agenda of these legislators is not to promote women's health or to improve abortion services in the state. It is to burden and intimidate abortion doctors and clinics with onerous regulations and the prospect of being sued. Webster, Traviesa and other abortion foes have no appreciation for a woman's constitutional right to choose abortion. They are too busy trying to impose their fundamentalist ideology on others.
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by ProFamily-ProChoice
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03/11/08 09:42 AM
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I did it once, and would do it again. If you choose not to have an abortion, it is YOUR CHOICE. At least I had one.
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by Kishmir
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03/07/08 10:25 PM
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I want this to pass. I will line up hundreds of women from around the state who need sonograms and cannot afford them. They can tell their docs they want to abort and then after the sono decide no. A free sono courtesy of
Danny (unabridged) Webster
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by Eileen
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03/07/08 06:12 PM
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Roe v Wade, 1973....The Endangered Species Act, 1973....hummmmmm..anyone see the irony here??!!
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by Mary
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03/07/08 08:52 AM
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You CAN legislate morality - every law that exists is based upon a moral principle.
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by Michele
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03/07/08 08:10 AM
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Had I been adequately informed at the time of my abortion, that this is a life and not just a clump of fetal tissue as pro-abortionists would have you believe, how different my life and the child's life that I took away would have been.
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by Alison
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03/07/08 02:53 AM
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This is a subject on which intelligent and caring people can disagree. The people who want abortions to be legal do not favor killing babies; the people who think it should be illegal are not necessarily religious wackos. So the govt should stay out.
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by john
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03/07/08 01:05 AM
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"You can't legislate morality"...don't you love it when liberals say this?....if that's true liberals, why do you legislate that we pay for freebies and health care for the poor, as a matter of moral conscience?.
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by john
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03/07/08 12:47 AM
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yes, like the "compassionate" abortionists at the Miami clinic who allowed crying 23 week old babies to die alone on a hospital counter....this caused the nurses to quit in disgust....that's the cold cruel nature of "choice" for women. Death
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by john
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03/07/08 12:33 AM
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it CAN survive after 24 weeks, liberals, but you're in favor of killing them after then also.....there goes the "it's just a ball of cells" argument"....note that it's not "a ball of cells" when liberals want money for prenatal care for poor women...
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by john
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03/07/08 12:32 AM
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first you say it's a matter of "health", then you say it's a matter of "choice"...which is it?....since when is it "healthy" to murder your unborn child?....does not improve your mental health, that's for sure....
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by joe
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03/07/08 12:29 AM
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what's the matter, are you liberal hacks afraid women will view the ultrasound and change their minds about killing their babies?.....I suggest you liberals kill your children as you like, and let decent people have kids.....we don't need more of you
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by steve
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03/07/08 12:27 AM
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there is no "constitutional right to choose abortion"....abortion's not mentioned once in the Constitution, so that statement is not correct (nothing new for your paper).....looks like you're trying to impose your left wing ideology on unborn kids...
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by Eileen
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03/06/08 10:06 PM
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Hitler was defeated & the holocaust stopped, slavery was defeated, lynching ended, we r a voice for those who have no voice. The Murder of innocents must end. There is no "right to kill". Aren't you glad your mother didn't abort you! 50 Million dead!
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by Jackie
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03/06/08 09:26 PM
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Abortion? I want to hear from the women who have had an abortion. TELL THE TRUTH! Today I still suffer from physical & emotional pain.I WAS LIED TO!If I would have been shown an ultrasound at 13 weeks I would have NEVER had an abortion. Its a baby!
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by QW
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03/06/08 08:53 PM
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James- you can't legislate morality. End of story. A sonogram will hinder many women. If one does not have insurance, they must pay out of pocket, thus increasing the cost. Science cannot determine when "life" begins outside birth. Leave religion out
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by Rebecca
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03/06/08 07:48 PM
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I was lied to and told my child was just a "blob of tissue" at 10 weeks. If I would have been shown an ultrasound of what's really inside of a womb, I would never have had an abortion and wouldn't have to live with regret and pain of killing a child
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by Liz
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03/06/08 07:01 PM
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Thank you Rep. Traviesa for protecting life! Let me remind the Times editors that each and every abortion takes the life of an innocent, helpless baby. This is a fact, not the "ideology" of "abortion foes." There is no right to murder!
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by an unborn child
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03/06/08 05:39 PM
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Abortion is murder, yet the life hating, left-wing liberals don't want to see it that way because it takes place inside a woman's body. You are the same people that killed Terry Schiavo.
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by Sally
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03/06/08 05:27 PM
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Jimmy, you're a freak. There's certainly a difference between a born child and a fetus. Get a life and grow up. Abortion is going to happen whether illegal or legal. I'm with Stina. Keep it legal and safe.
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by Barbara
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03/06/08 05:25 PM
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Keep abortion legal. There is no reason to have a sonogram except to harrass women. All you RTLers are ok with it being illegal until you need to have one. Support a womans right to choose, you may need it!
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by Rico
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03/06/08 05:23 PM
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Keep up the good work Traviesa and Webster :)
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by RI
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03/06/08 04:54 PM
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JT, I have read many of your posts.In my humble opinion you are either super rich or a complete idiot.Of course the first does not cancel out the latter.
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by jimmy
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03/06/08 03:29 PM
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If my doctor and I conspired to murder a 2year old, would THAT be a protected act? What's the differnce morally?
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by James
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03/06/08 03:29 PM
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The bill supports MORALITY not the hinderance of health care. Abortion of convenience are of no value to a woman's health. If this country wishes to murder babys then those involved should see the reality of what they are doing. Live is preciouse.
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by knowstrey
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03/06/08 02:20 PM
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why do you guys censor every comment of value? trey is just grandstanding. sincerly, i still know trey.
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by Denny
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03/06/08 02:01 PM
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Rick comments "Good for the legislators. Finally doing something to protect life. Thank you." This, while they take life through capital punishment. Guess their idea of life has nothing to do with a living breathing human.
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by Tim
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03/06/08 01:47 PM
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You begin the article with the phrase "Abortion Foes" and cast an entire class of persons as somehow opposed to personal freedom, assuredly without understanding that promoting the right to kill fetal life is not virtuous or moral or constitutional..
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by Kay
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03/06/08 01:28 PM
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Didn't the US Supreme court already solve this issues, decades ago? My insurance company wouldn't even cover my selection of "family planning" (i.e. type of birth control). How about a bill in regards to that? Make it easier to prevent!
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by Stina
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03/06/08 01:18 PM
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Whether or not you are pro- or anti-abortion, the fact remains that it is going to happen. That's reality. So is it better to have women get one with a hanger in an alley so we lose both the mother AND the child???
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by Jon
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03/06/08 01:05 PM
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The greatest irony is, however, that most anti-abortion republicans are staunchly PRO-death penalty, and PRO-gun rights. If you make the leap that pre-fetal abortion is murder, then perhaps you can imagine the state sponsored death penalty is also.
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by Kristin
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03/06/08 12:49 PM
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And I suppose all of you who oppose abortion are willing to take care of all of the children that are now unwanted. Don't we have enough child abuse, why do you want more. We should teach more than abstinence in this state, birth conrol methods work.
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by Christine
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03/06/08 12:49 PM
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I'm infertile. I loathe abortion. I would never have one yet what another woman does to her body is not my business. It is their choice. Religion is not law.
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by my business
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03/06/08 12:28 PM
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stay out of my uterus, you bunch of bible-beaters.
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by rick
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03/06/08 12:02 PM
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that, maybe you should try some compassion instead? if you can't help you should at least do no harm to your fellow humans. you can't possibly know all the dynamics. and i've met plenty of hypocrites who secretly go but don't tell when it's them
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by rick
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03/06/08 12:00 PM
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from someone who counsels women in making this difficult decision i can tell you it is always very hard and not taken lightly so why do always want to make it harder? you r only adding to a persons painful process i don't think your religion teachs t
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