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Fight over higher education governance gets nasty
State senators dress down the chancellor of Florida's 11 state colleges at a hearing.
By Shannon Colavecchio-Van Sickler, Times Staff Writer
Published March 6, 2008
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Mark Rosenberg told committee members that the governance change will politicize higher education and "harm our universities"
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TALLAHASSEE -- In a sign of just how ugly the fight over university system governance has become, state senators dressed down the chancellor of Florida's 11 state colleges during a standing-room-only meeting Wednesday.
Members of the Senate's K-12 committee unanimously moved forward a proposed constitutional amendment to reinstate an elected education commissioner and to strip the Board of Governors of much of its university oversight powers.
But they did so only after grilling chancellor Mark Rosenberg like a grade schooler who failed his FCAT.
They demanded statistics on faculty recruiting and retention. They questioned the system's performance under his "watch." And the committee chairman ended it by telling Rosenberg he was "dismissed."
Some lobbyists said they have never seen such a display by lawmakers. "Disrespectful," a few attendees whispered as they left the meeting, the first stop for the education proposal.
The back-and-forth began when Rosenberg went to the podium to oppose the proposed education overhaul. The pet project of Senate President Ken Pruitt, R-Port St. Lucie, the ballot measure SJR 2308 is sponsored by Senate budget chief Lisa Carlton, R-Osprey, and supported by Miami Democrat Frederica Wilson. House Speaker Marco Rubio has so far not expressed strong support for the plan.
Rosenberg told committee members that the governance change will politicize higher education and "harm our universities" by creating the system's third major reorganization in the past decade.
Not since 2001, when the Legislature dismantled the university governing board, has the acrimony been so palatable. Lawmakers abolished the governor-appointed Board of Regents after high-profile disputes about the establishment of medical and law schools.
Higher education supporters responded in 2002 by placing a citizen initiative on the ballot that granted control of the universities to a 17-member Board of Governors, most of whom are picked by the governor.
Rosenberg told senators Wednesday that the current Board of Governors is the best advocate for higher education, despite its recent disagreements with the Legislature over the setting of tuition.
"Perhaps we have been more vocal than we need to be," Rosenberg conceded. "But we are worried about faculty ratios, the lack of advisers, the lack of campus police. We are not giving our sons and daughters the quality education they need."
From there, Wednesday's meeting grew tenser by the minute. And before it was over, senators used the chancellor's words to make their case for the proposed amendment.
Sen. Larcenia Bullard, D-Miami, complained that "I don't even know who the Board of Governors is. They never come see me.
"Why do we need 17 people who have no relationship with the Legislature?" she asked.
Rosenberg replied: "You were one of the first legislators I visited when I was appointed. Had you mentioned this earlier, I certainly would have gotten them to visit you."
Sen. Alex Diaz de la Portilla, R-Miami, told the chancellor his answer to Bullard was "disrespectful."
Committee Chairman Don Gaetz, a Panhandle Republican who was superintendent of Okaloosa schools, delivered the final blow.
He repeatedly asked Rosenberg for "specifics" of how the proposed governance change would make it harder for universities to attract top faculty members and administrators, as Rosenberg contends.
"This is a system you just indicted, by saying it has not provided the quality education students deserve -- which by the way was under your watch," Gaetz said. "I think your testimony is starting to make Sen. Carlton's and Sen. Wilson's case."
Gaetz even quizzed the chancellor on the history of higher education in Virginia, where the university system was established by Thomas Jefferson. And when the chancellor lacked an answer, Gaetz replied curtly:
"Thank you, chancellor. You're excused."
Asked later about the tenor of the questioning, the chancellor remained politically correct: "The Senate has a view about how we can have a quality higher education system, and I can respect that."
And it's not just the Senate. Gov. Charlie Crist recently told the Times that if university leaders are unhappy with the state of things, "maybe they ought to turn the reins over to somebody else."
Shannon Colavecchio-Van Sickler can be reached at svansickler@sptimes.com or (850)224-7263.
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by Rob
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03/12/08 11:06 AM
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On one hand, the SUS is required to deliver a high quality education and on the other to control costs so to not restrict access. This is an untenable conflict that will not be reconciled without serious revision to the funding process and tuituion.
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by Edy
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03/09/08 10:18 PM
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Chancellor Rosenberg deserves an apology. How can our elected officials be so rude to someone who is looking out for the best interest of the universities? Gov. Crist doesn't care much about education in FL and Ken Pruitt doesn't even have any.
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by chuck
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03/08/08 03:55 PM
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We the people already spoke on this issue.The next time we speak it may well be to pick politicians that will listen to us and not special interests or talk show pundits
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by Mark
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03/07/08 11:46 AM
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"Not since 2001, when the Legislature dismantled the university governing board, has the acrimony been so palatable..." Really? The acrimony is pleasant tasting or acceptable? Don't you mean "palpable"? And doesn't the Times have editors anymore?
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by John
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03/07/08 11:05 AM
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Why is everyone so upset with the Leg? the reporter admiringly says that not since 2001, when the Legislature dismantled the university governing board, has the acrimony been so "palatable." Or could that be "palpable"? Education, anyone? (Sigh)
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by Tigergator
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03/06/08 11:43 PM
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Sounds like some angry voters need to file suit about lawmakers ignoring a vote of the people and trying to assert control. Universities in state aren't perfect----but last thing it needs is politicians in charge of education.
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by Tony
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03/06/08 10:39 PM
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Move the capital to Orlando or Tampa where the people live and away from the hinterlands of the panhandle and the legislature would never get away with their shenanigans. Vote 'em out.
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by Suzanna
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03/06/08 09:45 PM
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The Legislature continues to show a disregard for Florida voters by meddling with the resoundingly supported Board of Governors. They continue to weaken education to the point that even the NY Times writes editorials about how bad the FL system is.
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by ronald
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03/06/08 09:44 PM
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after hearing gov crists comments about this issue as well as him weighing in on the democratic delegate issue, when his opinion could benefit his party as well as him being a possible veep,makes him desirable to the far right, but not the rest of us
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by Ruth
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03/06/08 09:44 PM
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OMG-I can see I am not the only one appalled @ this display of arrogance! Tell me how many TEACHERS are on this senate committee?how many TEACHERS do they consult? And this so called gov. is a bigger JOKE, he wants to do this & pit teacher vs.teacher
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by Bill
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03/06/08 09:17 PM
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Charlie Crist is a terrible governor.Where is his leadership?
We must educate and promote our citizens, not demean and deride the populace.
Reelect no one!
Our politicians are arrogant,deleterious and invidious! The vituperative cads!
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by Steve
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03/06/08 08:22 PM
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I'll vote with my wallet. My niece has been considering a FL college but I'll send her to a MI college instead. This state's ed. system is a mess and looks to remain that way as long as politicians and fundamentalists keep meddling!
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by Harold
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03/06/08 05:57 PM
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A man's actions speak louder than his words. Gov. Crist is the man who promised taxes and insurance would sink like a rock; however, FL is in a mortgage, tax, insurance, health care, and educational crisis and we have no leadership.
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by Solution
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03/06/08 04:53 PM
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Get higher education at one of our prestigious military institutions where the meddling is minimal and the opportunities are great. I think we will be needing more military academy graduates for the nation's future.
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by JR
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03/06/08 03:01 PM
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Yeah, let's turn the university system over to the rocket scientists who have spent us into a hole we may never get out of during the housing boom...another power grab by the political science majors, isn't that today's phys ed degree?? Clowns!
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by Allen
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03/06/08 02:42 PM
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To ignore an amendment sponsored by the voters is a disgrace and proves once again that elcted politicians can't be trusted by the people. Why not abide by the the will of the people?
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by Mark
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03/06/08 12:55 PM
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Sounds like someone is trying to get re-elected!
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by Aja
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03/06/08 11:53 AM
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What does the history of higher education in Virgina have to do with running Florida's university system? Seems like the Senators were enjoying their role as playground bullies. Ridiculous.
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by Harry
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03/06/08 11:41 AM
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We do NOT need politicians running the educational system. NO amendment.
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by Mike
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03/06/08 11:40 AM
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What a bunch of inept, arrogant nitwits!
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by Tom
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03/06/08 11:11 AM
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From your article, it appears that the senators were the ones who were "disrespectful", not Chancellor Rosenberg. The legislature has not adequately funded education (pk-20) and they alone are responsible for lowering the quality of education.
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by Barbara
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03/06/08 10:47 AM
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And we wonder why Florida is at the bottom of the heap. Too bad legislators are too busy arguing and can't actually get to the business of learning. Just wait Folks, the rancor is going to get worse!
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by Marvel
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03/06/08 10:28 AM
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This just shows how childish the Legislature is. Yes, we elected them into power. And now they believe that power gives them the right to do what they want. Forget about the promises they made when they were running for election!
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by Kay
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03/06/08 10:26 AM
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It took a citizen initiative to form the Board of Governors and now the legislature wants to do away with it? They were downright rude to the chancellor. Just as CC was to the university leaders. Represent your constituants people!
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by Bill
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03/06/08 10:12 AM
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Wow, the Legislature is off their rocker on this one. Chancellor Rosenberg is correct, the quality of higher education in this state is pretty bad. Bottome line: the universities just need more money to compete.
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by Paul
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03/06/08 09:57 AM
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Maybe someone should remind the Senators that the current governance was mandated by the people as a constitutional amendment in 2002. The Senators are showing disrespect to the people of Florida who approved the amendment.
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by kevin
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03/06/08 09:52 AM
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Seems obvious why higher education AND the legislature both need overhaul. I'd drop em both if they were in my class.
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by larry
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03/06/08 09:44 AM
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This performance by politicians is insane. Hell, why not just use dirty politics to elect faculty and staff? Stop partisan bafoonery now, why make FL into a laughing stock of the nation, nay, world?
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by JB
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03/06/08 09:25 AM
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Florida already has a reputation in the academic community for trying to micro-manage higher education faculty. No one in their right mind should consider taking a job in this state given the current anti-intellectual climate!
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by Penny
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03/06/08 09:20 AM
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We voted to establish the Board of Governors specifically to get the legislature and politics OUT of the University system. What makes the Senators think we want them back in cahrge now? Nothing's changed.We don't want the Legis in the edu business.
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by Debbie
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03/06/08 09:06 AM
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Disgraceful. As usual, our legislature ought to be ashamed. Tell me 'Chairman Gaetz', about the history of higher education in Virginia? I can assure you it's better than what is here in Florida. And I also bet you have absolutely NO IDEA!!!
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by Paul
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03/06/08 08:15 AM
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Unreal. Florida is moving bass ackwards even more? This is pathetic. We are doomed to be a state of meaningless retail and service based jobs. No wonder tech companies aren't moving here.
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by David
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03/06/08 07:43 AM
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The Senate and the Governors comments are horrid. Interesting that all the Senators critical of the BOG, back certain universities who were critical of the Pappas Report.
Without the BOG and the implementation of structure our state will suffer.
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