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The tag on the Trop: $233M and climbing
As the Rays bid for a new $450M home, it's worth looking at what the old, "$85M" one really cost.
By Aaron Sharockman, Times Staff Writer
Published March 9, 2008
The Tampa Bay Rays proposed waterfront stadium is expected to cost about $450-million.
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To thunderous applause, the St. Petersburg City Council took a historic leap on a hot summer day 22 years ago. The city would build a domed stadium for baseball. The cost to taxpayers: $85-million. "Great ventures have never been undertaken without some risk," then-council member J.W. Cate said moments before green-lighting the project. Today, the price of the stadium has almost tripled, according to a St. Petersburg Times examination of city and county records. And the bill, which now is at least $233-million, will rise to $323-million by 2016 whether or not a new stadium is built. The detailed analysis, compiled from 20 years of city budget and financial statements, is the first attempt to calculate the true local contribution to lure Major League Baseball to Pinellas County. The numbers have no direct effect on the Tampa Bay Rays' proposal to build a new $450-million waterfront ballpark. The money is gone, or will be, and it all was budgeted before Mayor Rick Baker took office in 2001 or the Rays new ownership group took over in 2005. But the costs raise questions about how much taxpayers should be on the hook should negotiations toward a new stadium continue. "I do think that if this goes forward, it's very important that the city, the county, everybody, have their arms around what their exposure is up front, and what the limits of it are," Baker said. "That is, to me, basically a critical point." Money hard to track No one document in City Hall can answer the simple question: How much did it cost to build and maintain Tropicana Field? One government analysis does not account for interest. Another only adds future payments. Different financial statements did not factor in the million-dollar property tax payments the city once was required to make or the costs of the lawsuits over stadium construction. But that's not all. Over time, the financing for the stadium was altered, as was the city's accounting and budget policies. The inconsistencies, large as they are, do not appear underhanded. Rather, they emphasize the volatility of construction costs, the rigidity of government budgeting and the lack of a common vernacular when it comes to defining a stadium expense. As a result, dozens of direct, and possibly hundreds of indirect, costs related to the Rays and baseball have never been added together. Said former City Council member Bill Foster: "The more paper that you turn over, and the more you stick your nose into the details, the more you find that you've only uncovered a percentage of what it has actually cost to construct and maintain the 85 acres known as Tropicana Field." Stadium costs soar The construction of Tropicana Field, as expected, is the biggest cost to taxpayers, records show. Interest payments on stadium construction loans is second. When the city and county portion of the stadium is fully paid off in July 2016, local taxpayers will have spent $148.5-million before interest. With interest, the bill jumps to $293.3-million. About $30-million was spent either attracting baseball to the bay area or operating the dome once it was built. "I tried to break it down for them," said Dean Staples, one of three City Council members to vote against building Tropicana Field in 1986. "It was a very high number for a city the size of St. Petersburg. But people were convinced the stadium was going to turn the city around." Between 1986 and 2003, the city issued seven government bonds backed by local tax dollars to pay for the construction and renovation of the dome. Four bonds have been paid off, three are still being repaid. The city's contribution for the stadium, which will total more than $205-million, largely comes from its share of sales tax revenues. None is coming from property tax payments. The county, meanwhile, is making payments from tourist development tax revenues. The county already has paid $75.5-million toward the stadium financing, and the contribution is expected to reach $117.9-million when the county's commitment expires in 2015. "When you look at these kinds of investments, it's very hard to carve out the investment and measure it against the return," said Rick Dodge, who as an assistant St. Petersburg administrator helped bring the Rays to town. "If you go back to the point in time of the early 1980s, downtown St. Petersburg was in cardiac arrest. Now look at it. But how do you measure that success?" The financial arrangement is typical, said Hal Canary, a Fort Myers financial consultant with the firm Public Financial Management. So is the fact that the stadium cost more than expected. In 2005, the Washington Post reviewed nine publicly financed Major League Baseball stadiums. Six had overruns - ranging from $30-million for the Philadelphia Phillies, to $115-million for the Arizona Diamondbacks. In all but one of the cases, the newspaper reported, the team paid the extra costs. But Tropicana Field had other issues. For the first eight years, it had no baseball team to share the burden. Operation in the red Operationally, the city hasn't fared much better. After running more than $1.6-million annual deficits since the stadium opened in 1990, city officials believed baseball would end the need for city subsidies. Under an agreement with the city, the Rays would absorb the costs for running the dome. Further, the city would collect a portion - starting at 50 cents a ticket - of the attendance revenues. In the team's first year, the arrangement worked. The Rays sold more than 2.5-million tickets and, after other expenses, the city made $152,769. But as attendance sagged, so did the city's main revenue stream. Overall, the city has lost $26.7-million operating Tropicana Field. Last year it was more than $2-million. "When we got the franchise, by the time that came, the folks that were in charge didn't have a great bargaining position," Baker said. "They had a stadium and they needed a team. They put together the best deal they could." City officials were caught off guard by the cost of property insurance. Premiums rose 1,700 percent between 1998 and 2007, from $127,544 to $2.3-million. For all the extra money, the city actually has less protection. Also, the Florida Supreme Court ruled in 2001 that cities were required to pay property taxes on publicly owned sports facilities. St. Petersburg spent close to $4-million on property tax payments before transferring ownership of the facility to Pinellas County, which is not under the same requirement. The city also is spending $400,000 a year on stadium traffic management, which roils David McKalip, president of the antigovernment group Cut Taxes Now. "The message is it always costs more than you think." While the cost may have been great, the dome has backers. City officials point out that property values in downtown have nearly quintupled since 1986. And senior development administrator Rick Mussett said the stadium signaled to developers that St. Petersburg was ready for the next step. It helped prime the area for projects like BayWalk and the restoration of the Vinoy hotel, Mussett said. "I don't think the whole story's written yet," Baker added. "We're only 10 years into the franchise. A lot of the momentum that came ... started with the search for Major League Baseball." Rays' side of the story For their investment in baseball, the city and county have gotten back three tangible things: Tropicana Field, the parking lots that surround it and a Major League Baseball franchise. The Rays, who want to relocate to Al Lang Field on the St. Petersburg waterfront, are asking voters to sell the first two assets to keep the third viable. Put another way, the city and county will have invested $323-million in baseball at Tropicana Field by 2016. Not including $60-million from the state in the form of a sales tax subsidy. The Rays' plan to take that investment - the property - and sell it. The proceeds would fund a new ballpark. The public investment in baseball would not have to increase, they say. In fact, Rays executives believe local taxpayers would come back a winner. The team will know for sure when developers' proposals for Tropicana Field are heard March 18. Rays senior vice president for development and business affairs Michael Kalt said the team will absorb any cost overruns for a new stadium, as long as they manage the construction of the new stadium. The problems related to the construction of Tropicana Field came because there was no team to help guide the process, Kalt said, and because the city relied on the cost estimates of architects, not builders. Not this time, he said. "They did it because of the very specific needs of St. Petersburg at the time," Kalt said. "But it came at the cost of building a big, multipurpose dome not really suited for baseball." The Rays say their new stadium, coupled with redevelopment of Tropicana Field, could transform St. Petersburg when both projects are open in 2012. By then, the city and county will owe $46.9-million on Tropicana Field, once billed as the cornerstone of an emerging city. Aaron Sharockman can be reached at asharockman@sptimes.com or (727) 892-2273. Spent so far Original construction: $162,345,959 Operational subsidy: $26,736,345.20 Renovations for baseball: $18,984,139.58 Land acquisition: $11,415,362.50 Environmental cleanup: $6,474,100 Air conditioning replacement: $4,448,573.39 Lawsuit settlements: $2,362,000 Misc. expenses: $593,241 The anatomy of the debt The city and the county already have spent more than $233-million on baseball, and they're on the hook for $89.6-million more. Excise Tax Secured Revenue Bonds Issued: 1986, refinanced in 1993 Purpose: Original construction Principal owed: $54,825,000 Interest owed: $13,123,275 Who's paying: City, county Final payment: Oct. 1, 2015 First Florida Governmental Financing bonds Issued: 1996, partly consolidated in 2001 Purpose: Baseball renovations Principal owed: $1,035,000 Interest owed: $63,150 Who's paying: City Final payment: July 1, 2009 First Florida Governmental Financing bonds Issued: 2001 Purpose: Refinancing of baseball renovations Principal owed: $16,105,000 Interest owed: $4,467,637.50 Who's paying: City Final payment: July 1, 2016 * The city estimates it may save $1.5-million on future payments because of interest earnings.
[Last modified March 8, 2008, 23:24:13]
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by rick
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03/11/08 07:18 AM
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the city is on the hook for 90 millon so far..for baseball ,,how much are they on the hook for the homeless. poor. and needy,,st. pete is not nearly as ritchous as its name portrays.. its a nasty city full of greedy lawyers, and police racists.yuk,,,
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by alan
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03/11/08 07:15 AM
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its just so wonderful how st,pete can build millons of dollars in sports complex's and its streets are full of homeless, hungry ,and crime,,I wonder if they give a rats' a$$ about anyone at all cept there pockets,, I will not support any ball team.
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by zippy
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03/11/08 07:07 AM
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"could transform St Petersburg" ??? into what ?
St Pete is fine the way it is. Tooo much development already.
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by JM
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03/11/08 05:48 AM
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This stadium is a joke.Use the money for something constructive like homeless shelters or low income housing.The only one it will create jobs for is the illegals.Vote out these useless politicians.
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by David
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03/11/08 03:31 AM
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Greedy owners and spoiled athletes don't help a city's image. You guys are right -- JOBS are critical. Let's get the right infrastructure set up, and start attracting some bio-tech/renewable energy companies! THAT is where the future is for FL.
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by Tony
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03/11/08 01:30 AM
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St Pete is a dying city even though Baker has blinders on to it. You build a new stadium you can put in for the All-Star game, you can put in for more hotelS, THAN property values go up again and people will want to move there.
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by paul
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03/10/08 10:36 PM
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If the Trop's insurance is $2.3-million and its in an a non-evac zone, what will be the cost for waterfront Evac A Zone coverage? Not a single person has mentioned insurance. Nor has anyone considered the Trop as a post hurricane shelter. Darn shame.
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by Glen
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03/10/08 10:08 PM
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The Trop cost the residents of St. Pete over $1,000 each. Now we're thinking about at least another $2,000 per head on a new stadium? It's time for a change in local government. Pro-sports contributes nothing to St. Pete; we don't need them.
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by JobsAreCritical
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03/10/08 03:43 PM
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So why didn't the Times print my take ?
Hundreds of millions to any company as tax incent or buildings could yield real jobs for a long time. Baseball?? Spoiled athletes & owners that take the money and run. Wake up St.Pete !!!!!
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by con
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03/10/08 11:45 AM
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I agree with Jimmy that baseball needs to be centrally located in E Hillsborough or W Polk counties. What a wonderful oppurtunity for the Rays to build a privately-financed stadium there like the France family did for NASCAR races at Daytona.
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by Bill
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03/10/08 08:52 AM
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I was against building the dome prior to getting a baseball team. They've only played 10 years there. Absuolutely this is most absurd to build another one. These airheads should get a life.
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by rick
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03/10/08 06:57 AM
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jim we tried an election recall, david welch threatened to sue the residents for def of charc. using the city atty at our expense if you remember! i will never forget. the city banned our right to petition! and yes, our mil rate will go to prob 40
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by rick
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03/10/08 06:54 AM
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i'm taxed at 24mil, lake mary florida (much nicer than stpete) 3 mil. don't you people get it? we REALLY pay for these capital projects. st pete stop trying to be ny, chicago,et al. and stop electing idiots who think we're that big. we pay in the end
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by Dan
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03/09/08 11:40 PM
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Three decades of reseach has shown that stadium do NOT bring money into a city. They just take, as Aaron's excellent article has shown. It's just loot, loot, loot for the home team.
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by Edward
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03/09/08 11:23 PM
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People talk nonsense this is a regional team ("Tampa Bay"). So spread the burden of a new stadium to Pasco, Hillsborough, Manatee. How well do you think that would go over? Ppppffffth. This is a sucker bet, folks, we don't need this.
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by John
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03/09/08 11:20 PM
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They need to move the stadium over to Tampa. The Fairgrounds area. That way we could pull fans over from Orlando/Disney area. St. Pete. location blows! I wont go to new stadium if they build it.
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by Edward
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03/09/08 11:17 PM
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Take off the blinders, folks. This is a bad idea in search of a sucker with an open wallet. The rich get richer, the poor get a scrap heap they used to call The Trop. Let 'em go (St.Pete is awesome with or without baseball). Don't be bullied.
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by john
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03/09/08 10:36 PM
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Come on St. Pete don't pay a dime so the Rays can move to Tampa where they belong.
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by Jim
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03/09/08 07:51 PM
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MLB we don't need 'ya or want 'ya. A bunch of HIGHLY PAID drug abusers!!!!
Right Roger Clemens, Miguel Tejada, Andy Pettitte, Barry Bonds, Gary Sheffield, etc., etc.
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by Jim
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03/09/08 07:48 PM
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Any official that supports a new PUBLICLY funded baseball stadium NEEDS TO BE RUN OUT OF TOWN!!!!!
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by MICHAEL
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03/09/08 06:51 PM
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OUR WATERFRONT IS THE REAL DEAL, LIKE KEY WEST. I AM A SPORTS NUT, AND, SORRY, USING AL LANG FOR A RAYS VENUE WILL NOT BRING IN THE BUCKS. IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE A PARK, RIGHT? AND WE DON'T NEED TO DREDGE AND FILL OUR WATERFRONT FOR THE RAYS! NO WAY!
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by Sylvia
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03/09/08 05:42 PM
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IF THE RAYS WERE SO CRAZY ABOUT ST. PETE, WHY MOVE SPRING TRAINING? THEY ARE IN IT FOR THE $, NOT THE POSSIBLE BENEFIT TO ST. PETE. ST. PETE HAS YET TO REALIZE FINANCIAL BENEFIT FROM THE DOME,& IT'S A WASTELAND. STOP SNEAKY BAKER'S PAL'S SUBSIDY!
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by Jim
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03/09/08 05:34 PM
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The Trop site currently does not produce revenue. When it does, 37% will go to education, 11% will go to the Juvenile Welfare Board and PSTA. Plus 10,000 construction jobs. We need to get the facts before forming an opinion. Thank you.
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by Bruce
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03/09/08 05:29 PM
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Kathleen, it is obvious that you are simply using this platform to try and run for Mayor. You and Beach Drive do not speak at all for 300,000 voters. Your facts are consistently inaccurate.
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by Dave
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03/09/08 05:08 PM
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To Kenny: The Gandy location would have made it an area team, as it is it's a St. Pete team and the citizens won't go. That can still happen in the Toytown / Gateway area. And no filling of Tampa Bay would be needed, with all those nasty permits.....
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by Dave
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03/09/08 05:05 PM
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So to pay for the new, "$450 million" stadium, we need to sell the Trop property for $450 $323 = $773 million dollars! And that's assuming no cost over-runs. I need a new bumper sticker....
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by JobsAreCritical
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03/09/08 02:46 PM
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Had this fine city provided any company $233M-$323M for tax incentives or $$ to build its manufacturing sites, it would have resulted in a couple THOUSAND great paying technical jobs. Instead: marginal baseball and taxpayers shafted. Do it again !!!
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by john
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03/09/08 02:42 PM
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how many jobs lost in this area? whos going to buy your overpriced tickets to watch a ballgame. better look at the future. the only reason they want to build is because they will make money on the contracts, payoffs etc. half seats wont sell.
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by Brad
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03/09/08 02:35 PM
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Bring on the new stadium! The Trop has been budgeted well and most of the tax money to pay for it has come from sales tax or tourist development tax - meaning you have paid very little individually. Without the Rays, St. Pete is barely on the map.
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by Jb
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03/09/08 02:30 PM
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Nobody cares about baseball anymore,its BORING,you can't even fill up the trop.so your going to build a new stadium,without a/c,lets see,heat boring losing team = no one showing up,IDIOTS!get smart and move the Rays to another state,who wants them
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by Dave
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03/09/08 12:56 PM
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Bring on March 18. Blow up the Trop.
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by Ed
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03/09/08 12:35 PM
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St. Pete, look around. The Rays need St. Pete; St. Pete does not need the Rays. Baseball is a dying sport. If you want to spend money do it on something that brings jobs and tourist to the area. There is no profit in a new stadium.
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by Robert
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03/09/08 12:14 PM
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Let the sunset fall on the Rays. This is
insanity.
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by j ann
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03/09/08 12:07 PM
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The Vinoy was restored before the Trop. Private investment and the city's waterfront turned St.Pete around - not the Trop.
If Mussett is right( NOT )the business around the Trop site would have flourished - they have NOT.
What a looser project
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by kerpal
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03/09/08 11:51 AM
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they dont need another freaking stadium, baseball is the most boring sport...whatever happened playin in an empty lot? wow what a waste of tax money. this country is losing it.
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