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Rays' tally reports parking is plentiful

A study may ease fears about a new stadium.

By Aaron Sharockman, Times Staff Writer
Published March 12, 2008


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ST. PETERSBURG - Hoping to refute one of the strongest arguments against a downtown waterfront stadium, the Tampa Bay Rays released an exhaustive parking and traffic analysis on Tuesday that suggests the area can handle a crush of cars on even the busiest nights.

The 123-page study, paid for by the Rays and performed by a national parking consultant, identified 13,400 parking spaces that could be available for baseball on weekday nights. The number increased slightly for weekend games.

In either case, the study says, the spaces could more than cover a sellout crowd of 34,000 at the stadium proposed for Al Lang Field.

The analysis estimates each car will hold 2.9 people, based on Rays ticket and parking figures and experiences in other cities.

"It's a conservative estimate," said David Wallace, a partner in the firm that conducted the study, Rummel, Klepper & Kahl of Baltimore, which has done similar studies for stadiums in Baltimore and Washington, D.C.

"We simply didn't say, 'There's a 600-car garage, we're counting 600 spaces,' " Wallace said. "We studied how the spaces are used. We factored in the distance to the stadium."

Overall, the Rays say, the study offers a cautious assessment of the parking spaces potentially available to the Rays:

- None of the approximately 7,000 on-street parking spaces in downtown are included in the analysis. In fact, the study suggests the city increase parking fines to prevent fans from parking on the street. "We want our fans in garages and in lots," said Rays senior vice president Michael Kalt.

- A percentage of the spaces farthest from the proposed stadium - but still within three-fourths of a mile - also were excluded. The theory is those parking options will be less frequently used.

- The study assumed everyone was driving a car to the game. It did not attempt to quantify the number of people who may walk, or use a bus. It also did not guess on future parking options other than at Tropicana Field.

- And the study did not count some of the spaces in lots of 200 or smaller. Those lots would be more difficult to locate and, therefore, less frequently used.

Of the spaces the Rays say are available, 10,700 are within three-fourths of a mile of Al Lang Field, and another 1,700 spaces could be available at Tropicana Field. Shuttle buses would take those people to the game, similar to the parking system for the St. Petersburg Grand Prix.

The study says ample parking relies on the cooperation of government and private business, a conclusion that also emerged from a St. Petersburg Times analysis in November.

Of the approximately 1,850 spaces at the University of South Florida St. Petersburg, the Rays estimate using 1,200 for night games.

Progress Energy's 341-space garage would have 279 spaces available for baseball, according to the Rays' proposal.

Other potential parking options include city and county lots, the garage at St. Petersburg College's downtown campus, church lots and the lots of the St. Petersburg Times.

In each case, the business would keep the parking revenues.

But hurdles remain. Among them, working out agreements with the nearly 20 entities for access to the lots, as well as ensuring a plan for ballpark patrons to find them.

Rays officials on Tuesday offered letters of interest from All Children's Hospital and Bayfront Medical Center. Together, they could offer more than 1,500 spaces.

The University of South Florida St. Petersburg also is open to discussions, Kalt said.

Kalt said the study should alleviate one fear associated with the proposed $450-million ballpark: The numbers, if anything, are overly conservative, he said.

"We told the consultant: 'Don't tell us what you think we want to hear,'" Kalt said. "We said we wanted to hear the truth."

City officials, who received the traffic analysis Tuesday morning, had not yet begun to review its contents, said senior development administrator Rick Mussett.

The city is planning its own internal traffic analysis and also is planning to hire an independent consultant to review the Rays' work.

City staffers are expected to submit a preliminary report on the stadium proposal, including the traffic analysis, to the City Council on April 18.

Aaron Sharockman can be reached at asharockman@sptimes.com or (727) 892-2273.

[Last modified March 12, 2008, 00:09:37]


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by j ann 03/12/08 04:59 PM
It does not matter how the Rays consultant slant a study - the stadium they propose on the waterfront is too big for the location.
by Barbara 03/12/08 03:06 PM
If they really want to use the Trop land, put a garage on the parking lot and develop what's leftover.
by Sally 03/12/08 03:05 PM
Increase parking tix? The city's gotta love that! More $$ for them! But I still don't see how 13k spaces are going to accommodate 34k people. 2.9 people per car? I'll believe it when I see it. Why don't they do a study on the # of fans per car now?
by Mike 03/12/08 02:40 PM
All of this, this whole thing, is so the Rays can say they knocked one into the Bay. That's it. The problem is none of them could knock one into the Bay.
by Mark 03/12/08 02:26 PM
I'm just shocked that the Rays actually paid for it. Usually these sports teams expect the city to pay for everything.
by Matt 03/12/08 12:31 PM
Let's see parking will not be a problem, and the tax payers will not have to spend one dime for the new stadium, there is no recession, gas will not go to $4.00 a gallon. This all sounds like political/corporate lies as usual.
by Paul 03/12/08 11:57 AM
hahahhha, ohh, hahhhaha, you're kidding right? hhha hha haaah haa, pletinful parking... stop it, you're killing me. Go downtown during a busy event and look at the people who can't navigate one way streets. hahhha, please please stop, i can't take it
by sharon 03/12/08 11:01 AM
Oh, come on, there must be at least twice that amount, sure, sure. There's really um... a million parking spots, yeah, that's the ticket! Get real. These bozos will say anything to get what they want.
by rebekah 03/12/08 10:57 AM
1200 spaces at USF St. Pete? Night classes are going to be sooo much fun.
by Dobie 03/12/08 10:41 AM
It's not a completely open stadium. You should really try to read all facts then attempt to comprehend before making a statement.
by John 03/12/08 10:41 AM
It looks like I must be one of the unluckiest visitors to downtown because on a Friday or Saturday it takes me quite a while to find a convenient parking space now - I can't imagine what it would be like with this idiotic stadium
by John 03/12/08 10:40 AM
Traffic will be a disaster. St. Pete police can't handle the traffic on a big night at the current location. I can imagine at the new one. And... sail covering th stadium or not 100% humidity is still 100% humidity.
by tony 03/12/08 10:35 AM
rachel, you seem to be the only one with a little common sense. i agree...
by Steve 03/12/08 10:29 AM
I'm surprised they didn't say there were 50,000 spaces available. They sure are painting a shiny coat of gold on this turd aren't they?
by Rick 03/12/08 10:05 AM
I'm sure the manatees that will be forced to go elsewhere for fresh water after almost an acre of their habitat is destroyed (which the Rays consider "seamless integration with the surrounding area") will be thrilled to know at least there's parking!
by Chad 03/12/08 09:59 AM
13,000 available spots? Really? Come on people, don't you feel a little insulted that the Rays think you're that stupid? So what happens when St Pete grows and more of those allegedly available spots are needed?
by Mandy 03/12/08 09:55 AM
Of course the Rays say there is lots of parking, what else would they say? But they expect people to drive around to 30 different places looking for parking? Or will they put up big hideous electronic signs all over town showing lot availability?
by Justin E 03/12/08 09:23 AM
Still 10 pounds of stadium in a 5 pound sack, whether you have to drive around for an hour then walk 30 minutes to get there or not.
by Janet 03/12/08 09:19 AM
So the St Petersburg Times stands to make money off this deal by renting out their parking? Hmmm...
by Robert 03/12/08 08:52 AM
Let's do the math properly. Rays valued at 269 million by Forbes. Profit for them over 200 million with stadium paid for by tax payers. Was there any doubt they'd find enough parking spaces? How sad to watch New York carpetbaggers swindle us!!!!!
by Gabriel 03/12/08 08:50 AM
Sending 11,724 cars scouring downtown for a parking space from Progress Energy to All Children's Hospital and USF actually SOUNDS LIKE A HUGE PARKING PROBLEM IN ITSELF.
by Shannon 03/12/08 08:48 AM
So you're telling me the Rays had people sit at 20 parking garages all day long for a month to count the average number of available spots? Bah! How about some real journalism for a change, Aaron?
by kbd 03/12/08 08:39 AM
Sell out croud. When was the last sell out croud this loosing team had? This would be a terrible mistake for the city. Clean up the Trop and stay there. WE DO NOT NEED THIS EYE SORE ON OUR WATERFRONT. NOR THE TRASH THAT GOES WITH IT. I SAY HELL NO.
by liz 03/12/08 06:55 AM
An open stadium? In Florida? For a game played mostly in the summer? Thunderstorms almost every evening?
by Pete 03/12/08 06:21 AM
Your study didn't take into account the laziness of the average person. If they see a parking spot on the street closer than the nearest garage, they're going to take it. Your parking solution stinks.
by Mike Beauchaine 03/12/08 06:20 AM
one thing is for sure. these owners are doing it the right way. none of these preparations were taken for the Scumdome. It was just built, 10 years before baseball, and almost immediately outdated.
by rachel 03/12/08 05:30 AM
Why dont they build a parking garage away from the proposed stadium (maybe where the current stadium is located) and bus people in?
by Get Smart 03/12/08 01:21 AM
By keeping the new stadium a secret, the mayor and city deprived us of an important issue that needed to be aired for our election of our new city council members. The State Attorney needs to investigate.
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